RE: [asa] The Myth of the Rejected ID Paper (science stoppers and OOL)

From: Dehler, Bernie <>
Date: Thu Jul 03 2008 - 13:14:11 EDT

RE: ID is a science stopper?


I think it might be helpful to look at specific scientific details, too.


For example, how did life originate? Should we investigate? We had the
Miller/Urey Experiment experiment. Seems to me that those who love
science and want to investigate would say that it was a good start, and
wonder what we can learn from it and improve upon it. Those who may
think that God designed life may think this is all a waste of time, and
have nothing positive to say- only negative. They are science stoppers.


Now, what does the ID movement say about the Miller/Urey Experiment?
Seems to me to be nothing but negative (RE: the DI-blessed "expelled"
movie)-not even any suggestions on how to improve it or what can be
learned from it. Does it take an atheist to move this kind of science




From: [] On
Behalf Of Rich Blinne
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: [asa] The Myth of the Rejected ID Paper


Over and over I have asked for evidence that this is occurring and over
and over I get offline complaints that somehow I was "exposing" ID
proponents or climate skeptics. So, I then asked for titles and
journals. But then the push back on submission policies of journals like
Science and the Sternberg incident which was about an accepted paper.
See here if any of you find this objectionable


My patience has been exhausted. Rather than accept the fact that ID
proponents have not stepped up to the plate this myth continues to be
propogated. So, let me suggest one more avenue for the ID proponents to
prove their point. Poll your colleagues ask them how many papers were
rejected and from what journals. Summarize here with the number of
researchers polled and the results. We can compare the rejection rates
with people here that are not ID proponents. If I hear crickets,
combining this with what I have previously presented it should be
patently obvious to all that ID is truly a science stopper.


Rich Blinne

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