Re: [asa] water above the solid dome in Genesis

From: George Cooper <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue Apr 15 2008 - 01:14:13 EDT

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 have been special enough to initiate agriculture, at least in a much more significant way, perhaps? Isn't that region still considered the birthplace for agriculture?
   
  Dick, your view that a canal could be a river reminds me of Percival Lowell's erroneous use of canali, discovered and coined by astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli to mean a river or channel, but an articial canal instead. This hiccup created quite a stir. :)
   
  Little has been said as to the Gen 1 account of the "waters above". I am still entertaining the idea that these waters were the author's best effort to describe planetary accretion disks. [It certainly would have been an important event in our history.] The "waters below" likely containing a certain protoplanet that had, on the author's first day of observation, appeared as "without form and void", similar to the recent image of a protoplanetary void region seen of AB Aurigae. I see no reason why accretion disks, if higly illuminated, would not appear as blue as the sky above, and for the very same reason -- Rayleigh Scattering. Many nebula (reflection nebula) also appear "watery blue" for this reason, albeit, they are not illuminated enough for the naked eye to see their blue color. Stellar nurseries, however, can be very bright with hundreds of very bright stars -- the brighter ones were blue-white.
   
  GeorgeA
  

philtill@aol.com wrote:
  Hi Dick!

you wrote:
    
  What Genesis says specifically is that ‚€œAdam‚€ was not there, the Hebrew ‚€˜adam translated ‚€œman‚€ throws us off here.
Gen.2: 5 says there was a time prior to the existence of plants, and it provides an explanation:

1. there was no rainfall to wet the land/earth
2. there was nobody to cultivate (irrigate) the land/earth

If it only meant "Adam" as an individual was not present, then it would hardly explain the lack of irrigation since anybody else could have irrigated the land and grown plants. It would be like saying, "there were no vehicles on the road because there was no Dick Fisher to drive them." Even if somebody did write this, then surely the reader would understand that "Dick Fisher" represents all humans.

Either way, "there was no adam (or Adam) to irrigate the earth" presents a picture that God hadn't made mankind, yet, since only as a universal statement can it mean that there was no potential for irrigation.

If it only meant "Adam" as an individual was not present, then it would hardly explain the lack of irrigation since anybody else could have irrigated the land and grown plants. It would be like saying, "there were no vehicles on the road because there was no Dick Fisher to drive them." Even if somebody did write this, then surely the reader would understand that "Dick Fisher" represents all humans.

Either way, "there was no adam (or Adam) to irrigate the earth" presents a picture that God hadn't made mankind, yet, since only as a universal statement can it mean that there was no potential for irrigation.

Phil

      
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