Re: [asa] personal introduction and a question about textbooks

From: Douglas Hayworth <>
Date: Mon Apr 14 2008 - 08:43:16 EDT

Rather than writing our own textbooks, I think it would be better if we
could reach an agreement with a major textbook publisher to write chapter
supplements for their preexisting textbooks that provide classroom
discussion and teacher resource materials on the connection to (a) religion
in general and/or (b) Christianity in specific. This would allow the
textbook publisher to market its textbooks more effectively to Christian
schools and it would allow us to focus on the issues we care about most.

Consider for example this program in the UK, in which many of our CiS
colleague are involved:
I haven't read the materials yet, but I plan to order and review them.

In the online realm, we might also want to approach a group like
Understanding Evolution, which already serves as a portal for helping
Teachers, etc.
Perhaps they would be willing to provide a link to a tangential/parallel
site of supplementary materials.

Finally, to comment on Jack Haas's reminder about the ASA site and it's link
to educational resources. As a homeschooling parent, I have not found any of
those links to be very helpful because it is just an eclectic list of links
to sites that have all varieties of specific content and organization on
only certain topics. Many are poorly implemented in terms of usability, etc.
I think a set of printed textbook supplements would be best. For an online
resource, something like the Understanding Evolution site (complete and
well-organized) would work better.

I've got lots of ideas about these things, and I'd love to be in on anything
we might decide to do. Unfortunately, for the next six weeks I'm very busy
with my most important project of at work.


On 4/11/08, David Opderbeck <> wrote:
> We've talked before on the list about an ASA-sponsored secondary level
> textbook(s). Fabulous idea. Two barriers are always raised: time, and
> money. The money problem, I think, doesn't have to be as big a problem
> because of micropublishing -- it's easy and cheap to put a book up on Blurb
> or Lulu. The bigger problem seems to be finding credible writers and
> editors who can do this free.
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:20 PM, George Murphy <> wrote:
> > It seems to me that there would be an excellent opportunity here for
> > the ASA to make a significant contribution - if we can shake free of the
> > notion that we need to give YECs equal time.
> >
> > Shalom
> > George
> > <>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Douglas Hayworth <>
> > *To:* AmericanScientificAffiliation <>
> > *Sent:* Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
> > *Subject:* Fwd: [asa] personal introduction and a question about
> > textbooks
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/9/08, Dennis Venema <> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps it is time for a high school biology text with sound science
> > > from a
> > > Christian perspective? Has this issue been discussed here previously?
> > > Or do
> > > resources exist that I do not know about?
> > >
> >
> > Hi Dennis,
> >
> > As a homeschooling father (and a PhD in evolutionary biology), I have
> > thought about the textbook issue quite a bit myself. When I have attempted
> > to start a discussion about it on this list, the response has not been very
> > helpful. However, this disappointing response is not the result of the list
> > contributors. I think it simply reflects the lack of good resources in this
> > area.
> >
> > At the college level, I think the solution is easy. Just choose the best
> > available textbook for the subject (i.e., secular) and supplement with the
> > Haarsma book and aside-discussions of incidences where the textbook author
> > makes statements that belie philosophical naturalism. In my experience, such
> > occurences are very rare in college-level textbooks about core science
> > subjects including life sciences.
> >
> > It is the junior high and highschool levels that present the real
> > problem. I have not been able to find any such materials. As far as
> > I've found, all Christian and homeschooling curricula are YEC on some level.
> > I have resorted to using regular (secular) textbooks, but the problem there
> > for the homeschooler is that answer keys and teaching aids are not readily
> > available to the public. That's not a big problem for me (other than the
> > additional time required), since I am qualified to grade things myself
> > without teacher's resources, but it would be a show-stopper for any
> > non-scientist parent.
> >
> > I've been invited to contribute to a blog about this issue next month,
> > so I'll try to complete more specifics then.
> >
> > Doug Hayworth
> > Rockford, IL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
> David W. Opderbeck
> Associate Professor of Law
> Seton Hall University Law School
> Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology

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