Re: [asa] Why couldn't you write your d*mn book more clearly?

From: David F Siemens <>
Date: Thu Mar 13 2008 - 10:09:04 EDT

There are several conflicting magisteria, like Ellen G. White, prophetess
of the Seventh Day Adventists; Herbert Armstrong who had headquarters in
Pasadena, CA. There are other theological traditions that are held within
the several denominations, including the now abandoned Missouri Synod
anti-Copernicanism. Since serious Bible students differ on the Eucharist
and Baptism (back to the time of the Reformation), where will you find
this magisterium? The fact is that, when we stand before the Lord, we'll
have things to unlearn, even among those of us who are certain they are
Dave (ASA)

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:29:25 -0400 "John Walley" <>
I agree with you wholeheartedly on this one and this same conclusion has
been my key takeaway from my recent OEC-TE journey. The church needs more
of an emphasis on what are reasonable and allowable interpretations of
the Bible (after getting it right first of course) and that would diffuse
a lot of this "private interpretation" nonsense that leads to this
disaster and others.
I think we need the office of the Majesterium restored to the church and
that was one unfortunate casualty of the Reformation and we are suffering
as a result of it. Ironically, I think the closest thing that I have
found that approaches this function in the church today is this list.
There may be better examples out there cloistered away in church
hierarchy somewhere but not easily accessible to the general seeking
public to my knowledge.
Today's Protestantism is afflicted with the intellectual equivalent of
moral relativism in our culture. We have intellectual or spiritual
relativism where every idea is equal including YEC and it is politically
incorrect and unacceptable to correct it. This denies the truth that
there is an absolute right and wrong and that we should have it or be
looking for it and have a way to know it when we do find it.
I think it will take a removal of all the complicit pastors from their
roles and it will take a new generation of leadership in the church but I
am hopeful that we will see it soon as I feel that is what the Holy
Spirit is trying to do.

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