Fw: [asa] Denver RATE Conference (Thousands...NotBillions)_Part 6 & The End

From: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Sun Oct 21 2007 - 02:12:35 EDT

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From: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
To: "James Mahaffy" <Mahaffy@dordt.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] Denver RATE Conference (Thousands...NotBillions)_Part 6 &
The End

> Parker was the first YEC lecturer I heard back in 1982 when I was appalled
> at his science and his distortions.
> I have also got the book he co-authored with H Morris What is Creation
> Science? Full of the usual stuff i.e. mostly worthless "science"
>
> I am surprised he was a good science teacher - unless something happened
>
> Michael
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> From: "James Mahaffy" <Mahaffy@dordt.edu>
> To: <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Denver RATE Conference (Thousands...NotBillions)_Part 6
> & The End
>
>
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Mahaffy (mahaffy@dordt.edu) Phone: 712 722-6279
>> 498 4th Ave NE
>> Biology Department FAX : 712
>> 722-1198
>> Dordt College, Sioux Center IA 51250-1697
>>
>>>>> On 10/13/2007 at 9:45 AM, in message
>> <20071013144846.306E0710F48@gray.dordt.edu>, "Robert Schneider"
>> <schneider98@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> About Gary Parker. When he was on the AIG staff he gave a two-day
>>> "creation
>>> seminar" in Berea, KY, about ten years ago. I heard him speak at Berea
>>> College during an afternoon and evening presentation. What a colleague
>>> of
>>> mine learned about Parker is that he does not have a Ph.D. in biology
>>> but an
>>> Ed.D. in biology education. My colleague asked Parker about it in a Q &
>>> A,
>>> and he spent ten minutes justifying his biology background before
>>> admitting
>>> that he was an Ed.D. I think it is a stretch to call him a "scientist."
>>
>> I know Gary from why back when he was teaching at a decent college, Dordt
>> College. Yes he was not and has not become a research scientist, but he
>> did an effective job of teaching biology. Dordt then had a large
>> teaching mission and he did well. A EdD was and probably still is a good
>> degree for teaching undergrads and I think he got it from Bowling green.
>>
>> He is also a good amateur fossil collector. Some of the fossils I still
>> use at dordt were donated by Gary.
>>
>> He was and perhaps still is a good science teacher.
>>
>> He has as far as I know done little if any publishing since then.
>>
>>
>>
>> In
>>> his book _Creation Facts of Life_, his presentation on genetics is
>>> ludicrous, but sounds very authoritative (the YEC rhetorical approach).
>>> Your
>>> description of his presentation, Steve, fit the Parker I heard to a tee.
>>> He's quite slick. In one Q & A a physics major challenged Gentry's work
>>> on
>>> polonium halos, citing a few scientific papers. Parker dismissed the
>>> critique with polite disdain. Parker is basically a preacher, as you
>>> said,
>>> and he's good at it. Those of us academics in the audience knew it was
>>> useless to challenge him and just made notes of things he said in order
>>> to
>>> comment on them to any students who might ask. Interestingly only about
>>> fifty students showed up for his afternoon presentations, and most of
>>> them
>>> were "bobbing heads" as another students called them (i.e, the campus
>>> student YECs, constantly nodding in agreement). The evening session
>>> consisted of an audience of mostly people from local conservative
>>> churches
>>> that jointly sponsored the seminar. He preached to them, starting with
>>> Genesis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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