Re: [asa] Denver RATE Conference (Thousands...Not Billions)_Part 6 & The End

From: George Murphy <>
Date: Thu Oct 11 2007 - 06:35:44 EDT

Like others, I agree with Randy's evaluation. I would point out though that the reliance on "divine intervention" - i.e., miracle - has been clear in this most recent phase of YEC claims even before the RATE project began. In Starlight & Time Humphreys had to say that God somehow brought about an enormous expansion of space during the creation week. As I've said before, natural processes plus a miracle = a miracle as far as scientific explanation is concerned. Humphreys' cosmology and the RATE project (together or separately) are precisely, without remainder, in the category of the famous "Then a miracle occurs" cartoon - i.e., they are a joke as far as science is concerned.

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  From: Randy Isaac
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  Most of all, note the reliance on "divine interpretation." This is perhaps the clearest statement yet from ICR/CRS that known scientific concepts are not consistent with the young-earth position. In my article, I focused on the deception of those who claim RATE concluded that science has shown the young-earth position to be credible while the actual technical report states clearly that there are unresolved problems that cannot be solved by any known scientific process. I did circulate my article to the Creation Research Society board of directors prior to publication, with no response. It is now interesting that DeYoung essentially admits that the young-earth advocate cannot close the loop with science but needs to fall back on "divine intervention." In so doing, he has been truthful in reporting the failure of RATE to settle the issue of the age of the earth scientifically. If the audience left the conference thinking that RATE had demonstrated the scientific feasibility of a young earth, then that was merely what they wanted to hear--they were told factually that "divine intervention" must be invoked.


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