RE: [asa] Behe's Math... was Arrogance

From: John Walley <>
Date: Fri Aug 31 2007 - 08:42:04 EDT

I mentioned that Skatje doesn't blame her dad for her atheism in my post.

The emotional appeal of the cute 3 yr old toddler wasn't mine, it was PZ's
since this was exactly the way PZ Myers posted it on his website.

But the emotional response provoked from seeing a cute toddler turning out
to be an atheist recruiter is a valid concern and one that as Christians we
know Jesus shares as well.

And this was my point. Instead of just piling on because of the errors in
ID, we see there are errors all around and on balance we should address
those as well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Iain Strachan []
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:48 AM
To: John Walley
Cc: PvM; Gregory Arago; AmericanScientificAffiliation
Subject: Re: [asa] Behe's Math... was Arrogance

> It is refreshing to see this in a more balanced perspective and to know
that you agree in rejecting Myers' atheism that he proudly claims for his
daughter. I think that is a tragedy.

I'd have to say in fairness that this depends on your point of view.
I'm extremely proud that my daughter has arrived at the decision to
embrace Christianity, and is now leading a cell-group at her church.
But I've no doubt that many atheists would think that this was a
tragedy as well, and that my wife and I were responsible for
brain-washing her by introducing her to church. (Interestingly, my
own father stopped taking me to church because he thought it was
"brainwashing the poor little bugger" :-)

One might also note that Skatje Myers doesn't "blame her dad" for her
atheism and anti-theism - it was a decision she claims to have arrived
at herself.

I have to say I had qualms when you posted a picture of the cute three
year old who is now 17 and recruiting atheists. It seems an argument
from appeal to emotion. All atheists were cute toddlers once.


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