Re: [asa] Creationists for genocide

From: PvM <>
Date: Mon Aug 27 2007 - 12:14:58 EDT

On 8/27/07, David Campbell <> wrote:
> > While no doubt that Bonhoeffer and others suffered immensely for their
> > efforts, many of those involved in the early resistance involved
> > socialists, and communists with few Christians. The Confessing Church
> > was a small minority amongst German Christians, showing once again
> > support for Avalos's argument.
> Better check the reliability of the references on this claim. The
> Hitler-Stalin pact led many communists to collaborate with the Nazis
> until Hitler broke it.

You are now confusing the external politics with the opposition to the
internal politics.

> Advocacy for eugenics was prevalent among evolutionists in the late
> 1800's and early 1900's, as well as being supported by plenty of
> non-evolutionists. One can find examples of brutality perpetrated in
> the name of religion and in the name of atheism. Few of any
> persuasion in the 1930's realized where Hitler was headed with his
> anti-semitism, and few who began to see it would have had adequate
> courage and opportunity to do anything effective about it.

Indeed, and yet most Christians did not seem to follow the Confessing
Church's example. Advocacy of eugenics also needs to be understood in
its various forms before making connections between one and the other.

> The reality is that most people go with the flow and that any group
> including humans will include examples of sin. Trying to single out a
> particular group as especially responsible (as opposed to specific
> individuals actually guily of crimes against humanity) is one of the
> major steps towards genocide. Avalos seems to be following Dawkins'
> example and practicing what he claims to condemn in others.

So you have not read Avalos either? Funny how people seem to be quick
to create their own strawmen as to what Avalos (and as we have seen in
the past also Dawkins) believes and not believes

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