Re: [asa] FYI: Arrogance, dogma and why science - not faith - is the new enemy of

From: PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Aug 21 2007 - 16:07:45 EDT

Ouch that sounded awefully arrogant of me. Let's try again.

Perhaps it would be helpful if you read all that happened since Flew's
'conversion' to understand that Flew did revise some of his thoughts.

On 8/21/07, PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com> wrote:
> The original material from Flew is superseded by his later statements,
> would you not agree? Perhaps it would behoove you to first familiarize
> yourself with Flew's statements before rushing to judgement?
>
> On 8/21/07, Peter Loose <peterwloose@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > But I don't sense you've read all the references your source is selectively
> > alluding to. I mention particularly the Habermas interview and the letter
> > from Flew.
> >
> > There is much more in the original 'Flew' material, as opposed to the
> > selections from Carrier. The original material from Flew is quite
> > differently slanted IMO.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> > Behalf Of PvM
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:27 PM
> > To: Peter Loose
> > Cc: john_walley@yahoo.com; Alexanian, Moorad; James Mahaffy; asa@calvin.edu
> > Subject: Re: [asa] FYI: Arrogance, dogma and why science - not faith - is
> > the new enemy of
> >
> >
> > His own words.
> >
> > <quote>According to Richard Carrier (2005), who has become sort of an
> > unofficial mouthpiece for Professor Flew, Professor Flew now admits
> > that he has been "mistaught" by Mr. Schroeder and also, astonishingly,
> > blames Richard Dawkins for his own misunderstanding of abiogenesis, or
> > the development of life from nonliving matter.</quote>
> >
> > http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=369
> >
> > Oops...
> >
> > On 8/21/07, Peter Loose <peterwloose@compuserve.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In what ways would you demonstrate that Flew was (or is) confused about
> > > Intelligent Design?
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pvm.pandas@gmail.com [mailto:pvm.pandas@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:43 PM
> > > To: Peter Loose
> > > Cc: john_walley@yahoo.com; Alexanian, Moorad; James Mahaffy;
> > asa@calvin.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [asa] FYI: Arrogance, dogma and why science - not faith - is
> > > the new enemy of
> > >
> > >
> > > A classic argument from 'authority'. That Flew was confused about
> > > Intelligent Design should not be a reason for us to take it seriously
> > > now should we?
> > >
> > > Any more questions?
> > >
> > > On 8/21/07, Peter Loose <peterwloose@compuserve.com> wrote:
> > > > Perhaps those who are so dismissive of the Intelligent Design argument
> > > might
> > > > care to reflect on the interview conducted between Prof Gary Habermas
> > and
> > > > Prof Antony Flew. A pertinent extract is reproduced below.
> > >
> > > >
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