RE: [asa] FYI: Arrogance, dogma and why science - not faith - is the new enemy of

From: Alexanian, Moorad <alexanian@uncw.edu>
Date: Sun Aug 19 2007 - 21:26:07 EDT

Historical geology is an example of a historical science and as such is analogous to forensic science.

 
Moorad

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From: Michael Roberts [mailto:michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk]
Sent: Sun 8/19/2007 5:42 PM
To: Alexanian, Moorad; PvM; James Mahaffy
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] FYI: Arrogance, dogma and why science - not faith - is the new enemy of

What about historical geology?

Michael
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From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
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Subject: RE: [asa] FYI: Arrogance, dogma and why science - not faith - is
the new enemy of

> Forensic scientists do not do science; they use the results of the
> experimental sciences to do their detective work. One can say the same for
> evolutionary theory. One can easily show the good science done by
> experimental physicists, chemists, biologists, geneticists, etc. What
> good science has evolutionary theory done?
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> Moorad
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> What science has Behe delivered since he joined the ID movement?
> Bill's math is 'written in jello' according to a fellow mathematician.
> Point us to some good science done by either one and we can discuss.
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> On 8/18/07, James Mahaffy <mahaffy@dordt.edu> wrote:
>> >>> "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> 08/17/07 5:08 PM
>> >>> >>>
>> [snip]
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>> I am still waiting for some worthwhile science to emanate form ID or YEC
>> circles. I might wait a long time.
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>> Or you might quit painting EVERYONE with the same brush. Marcus Ross's
>> work is good,
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>> Art Chadwick is good. Mike Behe would not have the status he does unless
>> his science had been
>> good. As far as I know Bill D.'s math work is decent. David Dewitt's
>> publications in neuroscience seem to be standard science articles. These
>> are just a few that come to mind. I will agree that there is a LOT of
>> poor science in these circles but PLEASE lets not paint it ALL the same
>> way.
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>> James
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