RE: [asa] Sense and nonsense

From: Alexanian, Moorad <>
Date: Thu Jun 21 2007 - 20:25:15 EDT

Humans can do nothing but copy Nature. Flight, computers, computer memory, submarines, etc. are reproduced in all sorts of manufactured objects. However, none will have the ability of neither common sense nor the creative power to create abstracts concepts. Man was created in "the image of God," which feature cannot be mapped in purely physical objects. Note that one must invoke the nonphysical or even the supernatural to deal with the negation of AI.




From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. []
Sent: Thu 6/21/2007 4:39 PM
To: Alexanian, Moorad
Subject: Re: [asa] Sense and nonsense

What do you mean by "superior"? I think that kiloflops are superior to
human ability, let alone gigaflops. Human memory misses many things that
computers do not forget but can call up quickly and surely. At the
moment, wetware is much more compact than hardware, but I know of no
guarantee that it will remain so. I think the notion of superiority is
more likely to be a feeling than something that can be precisely

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:40:08 -0400 "Alexanian, Moorad"
<> writes:
> Perhaps I am na´ve but it seems to me than any living entity, say, a
> human being, cannot create anything superior to itself. The most
> intelligence, consciousness or rationality that humans can create is
> to give birth in the old-fashioned way.
> Therefore, a super computer like "Data," BTW I have never watched
> Star Trek, will never equal or replace its creator, man. Let us not
> forget that sentient, conscious beings or entities presuppose life
> and how to explain life from the nonliving is no mean feat.
> Therefore, it is doubtful that the physical plus mere physical
> interactions can create life.
> As Christine may have suggested, Christians have an answer in John
> 1:3, "All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him
> nothing came into being that has come into being," which is not
> easily amenable to scientific proof or scrutiny. Herein is where ID
> serves as metaphysics of science.
> Moorad

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