Re: [asa] Altruism and ID

From: Merv <>
Date: Sun Jun 10 2007 - 23:35:10 EDT

Jack wrote:
> I don't think that anyone is suggesting, I certainly am not, that even
> though "things" like altruism, fear, love, jealousy, loyalty may have
> come about through biological evolution that, there cannot be ideas,
> philosophies, and spiritual experiences that do not arise from
> biological evolution.
> Christ is the perfect example of this. Not only was he a combination
> of the divine and the natural. But he was the fullest expression of
> our trichotomous nature, body, spirit, and soul. And in fact Christ
> is an example of someone that is completely biologically unsuccessful
> in these terms (unless you believe the DaVinci Code) because he did
> not pass on any of his genes. It is not the survival of the
> individual that matters in a biological sense, but whether or not that
> individual was able to breed that determines biological success.
I think it interesting to note the parallel between spiritual and
material worlds in this. According to evolutionary thought material
success is in reproduction and in anything that helps a person towards
that goal. In a spiritual sense, who has the most heirs, and is, well,
the Father of everyone?

John 12:24 "Most assuredly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls
into the earth and dies, it remains by itself alone. But if it dies, it
bears much fruit."
Matthew 3:9 "Don't think to yourselves, 'We have Abraham for our
father,' for I tell you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham
from these stones."

Now who is successful? God's kingdom may have some significant
addendums to the normal set of rules. But even elevating this contest
to a spiritual level is probably to miss the main point -- unless that
realization helps one abandon the whole "contest" paradigm. Welcome to
the upside down kingdom.


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