Re: [asa] Brownback on evolution

From: PvM <>
Date: Sat Jun 02 2007 - 23:28:15 EDT

On 6/2/07, David Clounch <> wrote:
> Informed estimates *are* *not* *facts*. They are inferences, and as you
> point out, subject to change as new data becomes available. Yet we have
> courts telling school boards that they cannot say this as a disclaimer
> because it violates separation of church and state?
> (re: Cobb County Ga.) Instead they must say the informed estimates are
> "facts" (so says science).

Well, they are facts, and while they are facts, they always remain
open to be wrong facts. However the data suggests otherwise. When
religious people try to apply disclaimers to science, why just to
evolutionary science? No this is not about science, it's about the
discomfort of some with science's conclusions.

> A friend asked me to ask you if you live in a cave because you seem unaware
> of whats going on. I told him that was unkind.

Ah, the 'let's hide behind a nameless friend approach'... cute.

> But speaking of unkindness, what happened in Georgia is going on in my
> school district too. People lose their jobs over having a politically
> incorrect view of the informed estimates. Books are banned. Next they will
> be hunting witches.

No, first the end times will happen, we can always make up our own
mythologies here and their timelines :-)
If teachers refuse to teach science because of their political or
religious views then perhaps they need to reconsider their vocation?

> What is the source of this miscarriage of justice?

What miscarriage of justice?

> Hatred.

Nay, ignorance more likely

But pray tell, what miscarriage of justice are you referring to? Did I
miss something relevant to the discussion here? After all, my cave
does not have cable.

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