Re: [asa] Re: Ditch Darwin ....and The Arty Side Of Creationism

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Date: Wed May 30 2007 - 11:06:14 EDT

I am not sure exactly how you are using the word theory
then if we are going to be rigorous in our definition. I
do not mean Darwinism in an ideological worldview sense.
 I am only to referring to the origin of species.

On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:52:33 -0400 (EDT)
  Gregory Arago <> wrote:
> Hi Jack,
> For sake of clarity, would you consider using
>'Darwinian theory' instead of 'Darwinism'? It sometimes
>confuses people (including me) when an ideology is
>substituted in one's language for a theory.
> 'Evolutionary biology' does not equal 'Darwinism'
>(despite what some eVo biologists might say).
> Thanks for considering the linguistic/semantic
>dimension for the sake of coherent discourse.
> G.A.
> Jack <> wrote:
> Matthew said:
> "It is certainly not obviously true that RM+NS
>transforms bacteria into humans over deep time. That's
>why this is so controversial and contestable."
> There is also no evidence against it either.
> And, there is ample evidence of common descent. The
>evidence for common descent, if one chooses to look into
>it with an open mind, is convincing. There are multiple
>lines of evidence for it, and most recently with the
>accumulation of genetic information, the evidence is
> You also clearly do not understand what Darwinism is
>saying. Darwinism does not say that a bacteria begat a
>fungus, or some other multicellular organism. What it
>says is there is some random mutation in a bacteria, and
>this mutation makes it more viable than its brothers, and
>it passes it on to its offspring. Over time only those
>bacteria with the beneficial mutation remain. And you
>repeat these micro steps billions of times, over millions
>of years. Perhaps one mutation makes the individual
>cells clump together, and another allows them to share
>information between each other and collection of multiple
>cells. A couple of simiple steps, but now do you have
>two bacteria or a single multicelled organism, or
>something in between?
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