Re: [asa] Accuracy vs. Methodology in Science Education

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
Date: Thu May 24 2007 - 22:15:26 EDT

I don't know about AiG being without anything to do. They'd have been
equally engaged with Wallacian evolution, and could have combined that
with diatribes against spiritism/spiritualism.
Dave

On Thu, 24 May 2007 23:12:55 +0100 "Michael Roberts"
<michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
> No, but he nearly didn't write his book because a hunk of ice calved
> off a
> glacier in Patagonia with a big splash. Poor Charlie would have
> drowned and
> AIG would have nothing to do!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gordon brown" <gbrown@Colorado.EDU>
> To: "Christine Smith" <christine_mb_smith@yahoo.com>
> Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Accuracy vs. Methodology in Science Education
>
>
> > Rather than responding immediately to your question, I have a
> comment
> > about YEC thinking.
> >
> > Apparently everything they don't believe must be part of the
> theory of
> > evolution. What does evolution have to say about stalactites?
> Would Darwin
> > never have proposed his theory if he had thought about the
> formation of
> > icicles hanging from the edge of his roof?
> >
> > Gordon Brown
> > Department of Mathematics
> > University of Colorado
> > Boulder, CO 80309-0395
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 24 May 2007, Christine Smith wrote:
> >
> >> A friend of mine forwarded me the following tidbit
> >> from:
> >>
>
http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/posts/student_disproves_evolution
/
> >>
> >> "Brian Benson, an eighth-grade student who won first
> >> place in the Life Science/Biology category for his
> >> project "Creation Wins!!!," says he disproved part of
> >> the theory of evolution. Using a rolled-up paper towel
> >> suspended between two glasses of water with Epsom
> >> Salts, the paper towel formed stalactites. He states
> >> that the theory that they take millions of years to
> >> develop is incorrect.
> >>
> >> "Scientists say it takes millions of years to form
> >> stalactites," Benson said. "However, in only a couple
> >> of hours, I have formed stalactites just by using
> >> paper towel and Epsom Salts.""
> >>
> >> Initially, I was rather dismayed at the YEC "science"
> >> implicit in this story...but after thinking about it
> >> for a while, I posed the question to my friend "what
> >> are science fairs really for? Should the student be
> >> judged based on how much they struggled with and
> >> utilized the scientific method, regardless of the
> >> interpretation they come to, or should it be more
> >> about the accuracy of their conclusions?" This evolved
> >> (no pun intended) into a more general discussion about
> >> where the balance was between these two? And is the
> >> criteria different in the context of tests/quizzes
> >> versus the more exploratory context of
> >> reports/projects? In this particular example, can we
> >> really fault the student for coming to the conclusion
> >> that he did? Didn't he apply, to the best of his
> >> ability (and as much as we can tell from the article),
> >> the scientific method?
> >>
> >> Just curious as to the forum's take on this one...
> >>
> >>
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