Re: [asa] Event or process revisited

From: Jack <>
Date: Fri May 18 2007 - 07:02:26 EDT

This is exactly why I think the view that there are partial souls, or developing souls, or that animals have souls is very dangerous, and in my opinion, unbiblical.

If souls emerge from neural complexity, in other words from brain development. What happens to the souls when the brain deteriorates from Alzheimers disease, or a spongiform encephalopathy, or anoxic brain injury, or any other sort of severe brain damage?

I would like to see Don explain how his position does not lead to justifying killing people in those conditions.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David Buller
  To: Don Winterstein
  Cc: ; Carol or John Burgeson
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Event or process revisited

  On 5/16/07, Don Winterstein <> wrote:
    The human fertilized egg does indeed have a human soul, but it's a soul far less advanced than that of any adult mammal. As the fetus grows, it forms successively more advanced souls until it reaches a point where it becomes the kind of person that I believe God has an interest in saving eternally. I don't believe God has any long-term interest in fertilized human eggs or microscopic embryos.

  If God has no "long-term interest" in an embryo or even a fetus (where would you draw the line? at birth?), than the embryo is in essence no different from any "animal." Both have souls but, not eternal ones. Killing an animal is not morally wrong. As soon as you come to the conclusion that God doesn't have an eternal interest in embryos, than why in the world would we object to abortion? As you said, an embryo has less of a soul than any other "fully formed mammal." I would strongly object to the last sentence in Don's statement above. The Biblical authors seemed to think that God had a "long-term interest" for them from their conception onward:

  "On you was I cast from my birth,and from my mother's womb you have been my God"

  "And now the LORD says,he who formed me from the womb to be his servant"

  "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,and before you were born I consecrated you;I appointed you a prophet to the nations."

  If you would would object to an early-term abortion, I would be interested in hearing on what grounds you would do so.

  -David Buller


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