Re: [asa] University Denies Tenure to Intelligent Design Theorist

From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
Date: Sun May 13 2007 - 20:35:42 EDT

The guy was subjected to persistent, organized harrassment by an atheist
from another department. Please.

On 5/13/07, PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, for starters I have reviewed the guidelines from the Iowa State
> University in these matters, I have reviewed the guidelines from the
> arts and sciences department on these matters and I am comparing
> Martin Pohl and Guillermo Gonzalez as to how well they meet the stated
> requirements.
>
> Such as how many graduate students, what does the research group look
> like, what teaching experience, how well in establishing funding with
> NSF etc etc.
>
> It is tempting to conclude that it was based on Gonzalez's love affair
> with ID, and in some sense indeed this may be partially relevant as
> the time spent on evangelizing Privileged Planet may have distracted
> from pursuing a more robust research, building strong connections
> within the astronomy community and so on.
>
> If you want to jump to the conclusion that this is an example of a
> Christian scientist suffering for his faith, then I invite you to
> present your argument.
>
> For instance, how familiar are you with the tenure requirements as
> outlined by the university and the departments in question?
>
> On 5/13/07, David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
> > C'mon Pim. First of all, what in blazes do you know about tenure
> standards
> > in astronomy at a state university? Nothing. Second, we all know the
> > history here, and the smell of a witch hunt could hardly be any
> stronger.
> > Why not just admit it: this is a case in which a Christian scientist is
> > suffering for his faith. Take your ID-hating blinders off and face
> reality.
> >
> >
> > On 5/13/07, PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Many false positives here due to the existence of a González, G. at
> > > FSU I believe. Does anyone have a list of publications by Guillermo
> > > Gonzalez, preferably from his own page?
> > >
> > > On 5/13/07, PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > <quote>excellence sufficient to lead to a national or international
> > > > reputation is required and would ordinarily be shown by the
> > > > publication of approximately fifteen papers of good quality in
> > > > refereed journals.</quote>
> > > >
> > > > Is the standard how many papers have been peer reviewed
> > > > internationally or is what is really important the national and
> > > > international reputation? Is Guillermo's international reputation
> > > > served by his work with Ross and more recently with ID apologetics?
> > > > and more importantly how does this affect a university's reputation?
> > > >
> > > > Also take notice of the following: the author list easily exceeds
> 100
> > > > in most cases.,..
> > > >
> > > > 12 2006MPEC....M...06G
> > > > 1.000 06/2006 E
> > > > Gajdos, S.; Vilagi, J.; Prosperi, E.; Buzzi, L.; Luppi, F.;
> > Naves,
> > > > R.; Campas, M.; Reina, E.; Kadota, K.; McAndrew, S. G.; and 35
> > > > coauthors
> > > > Observations of Comets
> > > > 13 2006PhRvD..73j2002A
> > > > 1.000 05/2006 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Agresti,
> J.;
> > Ajith,
> > > > P.; Allen, B.; Allen, J.; Amin, R.; Anderson, S. B.; and 519
> coauthors
> > > > Joint LIGO and TAMA300 search for gravitational waves from
> > > > inspiralling neutron star binaries
> > > > 14 2006PhRvD..73f2001A
> > > > 1.000 03/2006 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Agresti,
> J.;
> > Ajith,
> > > > P.; Allen, B.; Allen, J.; Amin, R.; Anderson, S. B.; and 422
> coauthors
> > > > Search for gravitational waves from binary black hole
> inspirals
> > in LIGO data
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 16 2005PhRvD..72l2004A
> > > > 1.000 12/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Agresti,
> J.;
> > Ajith,
> > > > P.; Allen, B.; Allen, J.; Amin, R.; Anderson, S. B.; and 519
> coauthors
> > > > Upper limits from the LIGO and TAMA detectors on the rate of
> > > > gravitational-wave bursts
> > > >
> > > > 18 2005PhRvL..95v1101A
> > > > 1.000 11/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Agresti, J.; Ajith,
> P.;
> > Allen,
> > > > B.; Allen, J.; Amin, R.; Anderson, S. B.; Anderson, W. G.; and 294
> > > > coauthors
> > > > Upper Limits on a Stochastic Background of Gravitational
> Waves
> > > >
> > > > 19 2005PhRvD..72j2004A
> > > > 1.000 11/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Agresti,
> J.;
> > Allen,
> > > > B.; Allen, J.; Amin, R.; Anderson, S. B.; Anderson, W. G.; and 419
> > > > coauthors
> > > > First all-sky upper limits from LIGO on the strength of
> periodic
> > > > gravitational waves using the Hough transform
> > > >
> > > > 20 2005PhRvD..72h2002A
> > > > 1.000 10/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Allen, B.;
> > Amin, R.;
> > > > Anderson, S. B.; Anderson, W. G.; Araya, M.; Armandula, H.; and 395
> > > > coauthors
> > > > Search for gravitational waves from primordial black hole
> binary
> > > > coalescences in the galactic halo
> > > >
> > > > 21 2005PhRvD..72h2001A
> > > > 1.000 10/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Allen, B.;
> > Amin, R.;
> > > > Anderson, S. B.; Anderson, W. G.; Araya, M.; Armandula, H.; and 395
> > > > coauthors
> > > > Search for gravitational waves from galactic and
> extra-galactic
> > > > binary neutron stars
> > > >
> > > > 22 2005PhRvD..72f2001A
> > > > 1.000 09/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Agresti,
> J.;
> > Allen,
> > > > B.; Allen, J.; Amin, R.; Anderson, S. B.; Anderson, W. G.; and 418
> > > > coauthors
> > > > Upper limits on gravitational wave bursts in LIGO's second
> > science run
> > > >
> > > > 23 2005PhRvD..72d2002A
> > > > 1.000 08/2005 A E
> > R C
> > > > U
> > > > Abbott, B.; Abbott, R.; Adhikari, R.; Ageev, A.; Allen, B.;
> > Amin, R.;
> > > > Anderson, S. B.; Anderson, W. G.; Araya, M.; Armandula, H.; and 394
> > > > coauthors
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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