Re: [asa] Degrees

From: Bill Hamilton <>
Date: Thu May 10 2007 - 21:51:20 EDT

My reasoning below doesn't hold water -- I really don't see that it follows that you can't have a gradual process just because that would have people at different stages of development. However, I still believe there was a discrete "step to man", because that seems to me to be the most reasonable way to read Genesis 1 and 2. In addition, if you have man developing spiritually over many generations, a reasonable question to ask is at what point in the process does man become accountable to God?
Bill Hamilton
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From: Carol or John Burgeson <>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:30:11 AM
Subject: [asa] Degrees


Bill Hamilton commented: "While I agree
that development of spiritual awareness could have been a process, IMO there has
to be a definite, discrete step at which God turned human into man. Otherwise
there could be all different degrees of "soulness" existing at the same


Usually I agree with
Bill but not this time. At least I cannot rule out the process approach on the
basis of Bill's argument.


I see no problem
(theologically) with the process approach where the afterlife is granted to all
who came before Adam -- just as it MUST be granted to at least certain animals.


As I noted earlier,
the presumption that "soul" refers to something real may be at the root of our
difficulties on this subject.


Consider an analogy
with the human reproductive process. Some hold that a "soul" is infused by God
at the "moment" of conception. Assuming this to be true, and assuming
"innocents" are granted heaven, it follows that heaven is 50% populated by
persons who died in the first two weeks after conception. Possible, of course,
but it does seem strange. Again, the "soul" concept seems to play a sticky


Note that I do not
argue any other position other than one of seriously considering all


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