Re: [asa] Event or process

From: Jack <>
Date: Wed May 09 2007 - 06:35:03 EDT

Clearly there is a biblical distinction between humans (man) and the
animals. Both however are given the breath of life (nephesh). So what is
the distinction?

In order to avoid the confusion between soul, and breath of life it might be
easier to focus on Imago Dei. What is this image of God, and when did it
come into existence?

My personal opinion is that there was an Adam at some point in our
evolutionary history, an modern homo sapiens, (Glenn would argue it was
earlier) that God selected out of his fellow creatures, and gifted with this
Imago Dei. When and where this happened I am not going to get into now, but
this was a singular event, and this marriage of material creature with this
other quality became God's supreme creation. I think that a typical way to
conceive of this is the immortal human soul. These creatures became
different than all of the other animals and other hominids, and remain
different than the rest of creation. These creatures are capable of
immortality unlike the other animals (and hominids). These creatures have
free will, and any other aspect that you might consider the image of God.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Smith" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] Event or process

>I haven't read The Language of God or Finding Darwin's
> God (will have to add them to my very ever-growing
> reading list...), but I'm thinking I didn't express
> very well what I was meaning (or maybe words are just
> inadequate to this task??) You used the word
> "sensing", as in, for example, my metaphor of the
> radio being designed to sense a radio wave and then
> translate that into sound waves. But obviously, the
> radio's "sensing" and the our "sensing" is quite
> different, in that we are beings, and it is not. I
> think what I meant to convey was more a sort of
> "ensoulification" (is that a word?), whereby God is
> bestowing upon us a portion of His divine (and
> therefore, eternal) essence/attributes
> (self-awareness, emotion, etc.). Thus, a soul does not
> *emerge from* an increasingly complex, inanimate organ
> (if that were the case, I'd agree with you--there's
> nothing there that says we're talking about something
> that is eternal or supernatural); rather, I'd flip the
> argument on it's head to say that God's selectively
> ensouls our bodies with a being appropriate to the
> level of our brain's development. Thus, even if we
> were able to design and construct a computer with a
> "brain" capable of "sensing the divine", it would
> remain just a computer unless and until God bestowed a
> soul upon it, transforming the "it" into a "thou" (to
> use Buber's terminology).
> David--as an aside, from your previous postings I get
> the impression that you don't share my belief that
> animals have souls and go to heaven--maybe this is
> part of our miscommunication/disagreement?
> Thanks for the thought-provoking reply--keep 'um
> comin' :D
> Christine

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