RE: [asa] David S Wilson

From: Alexanian, Moorad <>
Date: Tue May 08 2007 - 22:18:55 EDT

I wonder how an atheist would answer the following question, how come existence.




From: on behalf of Merv
Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 9:32 PM
To: Bill Hamilton;
Subject: Re: [asa] David S Wilson

Bill Hamilton wrote:

        First, I wouldn't argue to an atheist that his view cheapens our humanity. That's just waving a red flag in front of a bull (yeah, I know: bulls are color blind)
        What I believe we have to stress again and again, in addition to praying for the individual, is that Christianity is a relationship with a person, not (only) a set of principles, and especially not a view of natural and human history (though it contains elements of both). Since according to Scripture God takes the initiative, perhaps praying for the individual is the best thing we can do. But we need to avoid arguing over whether God's activity is detectable, whether the Bible's accounts are literally true, etc.
        Bill Hamilton

Thanks, Bill -- and I can understand about being too busy. I'm patient. I'm also relieved that you didn't just drop this and let me stew in my own juices. Don't get too worried, though. I'm not having any faith melt-down (not over this anyway); I just think it good to hash it out.

Most of the argument of the detectability of God is thrust uninvited on us from people in the warfare mode. I like your model for witnessing as developing a relationship. We don't solicit somebody's friendship by first sitting down with them in a debate so that we can hammer their opinions on all issues into alignment with our own. In fact we never do that even in mature relationships, although those may be strong enough for some such give & take. Of course, there could only be a limited amounts disagreement tolerated on some things. But in any case, we start by spending time getting involved in the other party's life.

Best wishes on showing your house.


"The new ignorance is the same as the old, only less aware that ignorance is what it is. It is less humble, more foolish and frivolous, more dangerous. A man, Old Jack thinks, has no choice but to be ignorant, but he does not have to be a fool. He can know his place, and he can stay in it and be faithful."
---from "The Memory of Old Jack"

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