Re: [asa] Dawkins, religion, and children

From: Jack <>
Date: Tue May 01 2007 - 21:17:23 EDT

I agree with you. But the point is that Dawkins argues that God is highly improbable because he must be complex. But as Plantiga points out, God only must be complex if materialism is a given.
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  From: Rich Blinne
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  On 5/1/07, <> wrote:
    This is what Plantiga has to say about Dawkins
    improbablity argument:

    "...suppose we concede, at least for purposes of argument,
    that God is complex. ..

  I'm not willing to concede that. The Athenasian Creed has God as simple and not complex, viz. without parts. This is not just a Catholic or Orthodox thing. Many of the Protestant creeds pick up on this same concept. For example from the Westminster Confession:

  "There is but one only living and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts or passions, immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible," etc.

  For a more detailed discussion on divine simplicity and how Plantinga interacts with that see here:

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