Re: Re: [asa] Does ASA believe in Adam and Eve?

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <>
Date: Sat Mar 31 2007 - 00:13:57 EDT

Since Isaac de la Peyrere was thoroughly familiar with the Bible, he must
have known about Mesopotamia. He would not have any knowledge of the
pagan myths from the area, for their discovery and decipherment came much
later. But the geography is noted in a number of works that were known,
whether from pagan Greek and Roman sources, or later Christian sources.
There were sees throughout the ancient Near East.

I understand that Genesis 1 messes up the simplicity of your approach,
for it cannot be honestly manipulated to avoid ridiculous consequences. I
recall the notion of an icy canopy that Glenn destroyed, and the attempt
to make the firmament simultaneously into space and atmosphere. Water
above the sun is a major problem. You try to get out of the problem by
claiming that Mesopotamian sources were not of one piece. But the king
lists which have a few individuals reigning for something between 186,000
and 456.000 years, depending on which list is consulted, suggest a lack
of history. Sounds like one piece to me. However, Adama-Adapu being a
fisherman rather than a farmer is interesting.

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:03:03 -0400 "Dick Fischer"
<> writes:
Isaac had little knowledge about the world beyond Europe. For example he
knew on the other side of the globe were what were called “antipods.”
Being European he walked right side up with his feet pointing down, while
those guys walked with their feet pointing up. I doubt he knew much
about Mesopotamia.

I’m not dwelling on Genesis One at the moment, just Genesis 2:4 through
11. I’m not talking simply about Babylonian myths, there is far more
recorded history beyond the myths, and even the myths invoke historical
elements. For example, Davy Crockett was a legendary folk hero who died
at the Alamo. Much that was written about him could be called myth.
Likewise Adapa was a legendary figure in Akkadian myth, but he appears to
be patterned after a real man – Adam. The eleventh tablet of Gilgamesh
is an epic tale yet it parallels the flood narrative in Genesis. When
the gods “smelled the sweet savor” in Gilgamesh how is it different from
the “sweet savor” God smelled in Genesis 8:21?

Dick Fischer
Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

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