Re: [asa] Live - Bore on Climate Change

From: Iain Strachan <>
Date: Sun Mar 25 2007 - 17:51:36 EDT

I'll third that. I'm sick of this list being spammed with Janice's quotes
from an out and out republican party propaganda site. It's not the politics
as such that I object to - I actually vote Conservative in my own country -
it's that it seems to me that Janice is little more than a political
agitator who distracts from the proper and scholarly discussion of
science/faith issues.

I'm also sick of Janice's ad hominem attacks, and insulting tactics such as
referring to "Gore" as "Bore". It strikes me that this is very childish and
doesn't achieve much.


On 3/23/07, Michael Roberts <> wrote:
> May I as an intrusive Englishman please second that request to ban
> Freerepublic. Both for its bad science and looney politics if I am allowed
> to put it that way.Further I object to its denigration of all things
> european. I am pleased to say that my republican friends never come out with
> such nonsense. (Yes I know how some of them voted last time!)
> I recorded the Channel 4 programme on video but haven't watched it yet,
> but suspected it was full of distortion.
> I am afraid I consider that anyone who denies that a significant part of
> global warming is caused by humans is a fool in the biblical sense of the
> word.
> Michael
> -- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rich Blinne <>
> *To:* Janice Matchett <> ; Randy Isaac<>
> *Cc:* PvM <> ;
> *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 6:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [asa] Live - Bore on Climate Change
> On 3/23/07, Janice Matchett <> wrote:
> >
> > ~ Janice ... The fact that you choose to trust such intellectually
> > dishonest manipulators is telling.
> >
> What you allude to something that we have all in common and strikes at the
> core of what the ASA is all about. Namely, promoting integrity in science.
> As I have studied this issue it has become increasingly clear that the
> "science" behind the global warming deniers is not merely wrong but
> fraudulent. We have the channel 4 "documentary" deceitfully manipulating
> time scales on graphs and duping their interviewees to create quotes out of
> context. (Speaking of controversial documentaries, I watched "An
> Inconvenient Truth" for the first time last night on cable. For all the
> complaints, I was expecting all sorts of errors and distortions but I was
> pleasantly surprised. The only real thing that I caught was you cannot see
> the Clean Air Act in an ice core. Al Gore did not predict that Florida would
> be flooded in 2100. He showed what would happen if Greenland and Western
> Antarctica melted which will happen eventually if we continue on "Business
> as Usual". This is the scientific consensus. What is unclear is how fast it
> will happen. When he talked about Katrina he showed what happened when
> Katrina's intensity exploded when it hit the loop current in the Gulf of
> Mexico to show what high SST does to hurricanes.) You have the proponents of
> solar forcing as the prime mover of climate change declaring up down and
> down up.
> Randy, that's behind my recent proposal to ban any references to
> on this list. The ASA must never be an agent of
> scientific fraud not only because we are scientists but more importantly
> because we are Christians.

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