Re: [asa] Mission to Sun shows turbulent magnetic field/NASA Finds Sun-Climate Connection in Old Nile Records

From: PvM <>
Date: Fri Mar 23 2007 - 12:34:38 EDT

On 3/23/07, Janice Matchett <> wrote:
> At 11:44 AM 3/23/2007, PvM wrote:
> Not just speculative but contradicted by much of the data. The 'damning' one
> is hardly damning, of course the sun is an important component to the global
> climate. However, in this case, its human components which explain the
> recent rise in temperatures.
> @ Per my previous link:
> "...And at the very end of the Senate hearing, Gore inadvertently debunked
> global warming alarmism.
> Sen. Craig Thomas asked Gore the pivotal question of whether atmospheric
> carbon dioxide increases have historically preceded or followed increases in
> global temperature.
> If temperature increases come before carbon dioxide increases, the notion
> that manmade greenhouse gas emissions are changing global temperatures would
> have the cause-and-effect relationship exactly backward.

Again a red herring. While indeed, in the past, temperature increases
preceded CO2 increases, leading inevitably to further increases in
temperature, showing how CO2 is indeed a green house gas as science
had already shown, in this case we have a 'unique' example where CO2
increases by human sources, lead and are followed by temperature

In other words, while some may be confused by this, the science
remains vindicated. In fact, when combining CO2 increases, models have
been able to recreate the recent historical temperature records, while
ignoring said CO2 increases, little heating was observed. In other
words, CO2 is an essential component.

What Janice is doing here is conflating the simple fact that there are
many contributors to the global climate to suggest that in this case
there are other contributors responsible for the increase in
Yes, the earth wobble affects temperatures, and yet in the recent
history, the earth wobble does not explain the observed increases in

In other words: Janice is right that there are many factors to global
temperatures and she is wrong to suggest that the recent increases in
CO2 are not responsible for most of the increase in temperature.

Hope that clarifies a common confusion amongst global warming deniers .

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