Re: [asa] The empirical basis of knowledge

From: Jack <>
Date: Mon Mar 19 2007 - 06:02:25 EDT

We cannot only know things that we are able to see empiric evidence for
ourselves, we also know things because we are told things by reliable

If you go to the doctor, for example, you are relying on that persons
training, education, and knowledge to give you a diagnosis and proper
treatment. You might research what you were told, but in either case you
are relying on someone else's testimony.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Morton" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: [asa] The empirical basis of knowledge

> George tells me that I am single minded, focussing on observable
> verification. Others think that I am hopelessly concordistic. I answer
> that the above charges are hopelessly unphilosophical. Since I am leaving
> this list Tuesday morning (wish it were tomorrow), I will challenge people
> over the next 24 hours to name one thing which they KNOW to be true which
> does not have an empirical basis. Example.
> Person A loves person B. You can't see the 'love'.
> Answer, Not so, I only know it is true by seeing the things that A DOES
> for
> B. A cooks the dinner, cleans up the dishes, and cleans the house for B.
> If A said, "B, I love you" but did nothing, B would not feel, much less
> know
> of the love. It is like a person who says Go, be filled be warmed, but
> does
> not give the person food and clothing. I know of their care because I SEE
> them giving food and clothing.
> So, floor is open to challenges of this kind. I claimed that empirical
> data
> is all we have upon which to know things. Now is your chance to disprove
> that statement. And if you cant, then this will demonstrate the need for
> Biblical empirical verification.
> glenn
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