Re: [asa] John Houghton on AR4

From: Janice Matchett <>
Date: Mon Mar 05 2007 - 11:21:41 EST

At 06:01 AM 3/5/2007, Rich Blinne wrote:
>On Mar 4, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Janice Matchett wrote:
>>>Sir John Houghton is largely responsible for awakening
>>>evangelicals to the need for action on climate change. ~ Rich B.
>>@ It's amazing he still has any credibility after he said that "
>>human induced global warming is a weapon of mass destruction at
>>least as dangerous as chemical, nuclear or biological weapons that
>>kills more people than terrorism." ~ John Houghton Monday July 28,
>>2003 ~ Janice
>"And why shouldn't evangelicals listen? ....So, yes, we heard, we
>listened, and we responded to Sir John Houghton. How could we do
>otherwise? That's the why behind the poll numbers where a majority
>of evangelicals believe in anthropogenic climate change and that we
>should respond quickly even if it's costly, because we know the
>world doesn't believe in costly sacrifice but the followers of Jesus
>Christ both evangelical and not do. ~ Rich B.

@@ Oh, I have noooooo doubts about the "majority" of evangelicals
(and other "experts in climatology") believing the UN central
planners' "big lie". It's been told long enough and loud enough. (A
technique described in a saying, often attributed to Lenin, as "A lie
told often enough becomes the truth", although the user may not be
intentionally promoting a lie and may just believe an illogical or
faulty proposition.)

Some pertinent observations:

QUOTE: "We seem to have both low scientific literacy and low
religious literacy in this country, if his statistics are right. No
wonder we're having trouble communication the integration of the
two." ~ Randy Isaac Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:40:53 -0500 Teaching religion
in state schools

QUOTE: "Scientists who buy unhesitatingly into climate models are
playing a high-risk game. They could lose big. How will Christians
look if they eagerly buy in and then the climate models prove to be
wrong for whatever reason? The wiser course is to hedge
bets. ~ Don Winterstein - Tue, 6 Feb 2007 - 6:58 PM Re: [asa]
Level of certainty in science

QUOTE: "We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified,
dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may
have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between
being effective and being honest." ~ Stephen Schneider (leading
advocate of the global warming theory) (in interview for Discover
magazine, Oct 1989)

QUOTE: "The answer to global warming is in the abolition of private
property and production for human need. A socialist world would place
an enormous priority on alternative energy sources. This is what
ecologically-minded socialists have been exploring for quite some
time now." (Louis Proyect, Columbia University, 27 November 1997)

QUOTE: "..Science is dazzling, and you can bamboozle all sorts of
smart people with a few whizz bang proofs and a lot of nonsense
equations. If you have some fancy gadget to show, that's even
better. Pretty soon, people are like a bunch of dumb dogs staring at
flashing lights and loud noises. Who wouldn't envy such glitter and
want to emply its tinsel shine to their apologetics. Proof, by
science. It's just so inviting that the temptation is
irresistible! Religion is just difficult to add that pizzazz, but we
surely hunger for it, because science is so powerful and impressive.
.." ~ Wayne Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:34:04 EST Re:
Self-deception, faith, and

QUOTE: "The problem is that greed, lust of the world with its the
trappings of power and influence, and the ability to find all manner
of specious pretext to exploit and abuse out brothers and sisters in
Christ, all conspire to tempt even those who have some fear of the
Lord to sin." ~ Wayne Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:43:15
EST Re: The Left Hand of God or "is God a [s-word]"

QUOTE: "The data don't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
[for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We're
basing them upon the climate models" (Chris Folland, UK Meteorological Office)

QUOTE: "The climate modelers have been cheating for so long it's
almost become respectable" (Richard Kerr, discussing adjustments in
climate models, Science 1997)

QUOTE: "...Additionally, in specifying that the sun and moon are to
rule over the day and over the night" [Genesis 1:18] God appears to
be granting a certain measure of freedom to them. .... " ~ Johan
Jammart 09:20 AM 2/26/2007, ("It seem to me that the "free-process
defense" is most satisfying answer to me, at least for the moment.")

QUOTE: "I wonder if that has been factored into any of those global
warming "climate models". :)" ~ Janice ... Mon Feb 26 2007 -
10:49:20 EST

ad infinitum.

~ Janice

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