Re: [asa] Conservapedia

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Date: Thu Mar 01 2007 - 14:29:19 EST

Maybe I am missing your point Terry but I dont think I
agree with you regarding wikipedia, or any other such

For example, you dont "hack" onto those sites. You
register, and then you can write, edit, and put on
whatever you want. The idea is that everyone is allowed
to contribute. It is not at all the same as a blog, a
journal, a discussion list. Maybe you understand this,
but your choice of the word "hack" makes me think you
dont, perhaps I misunderstood.

All of these wikipedias are edited. The point of the
editors of the conservapedia, is that they consider the
editors of Wikipedia as liberally biased, and they want to
make a site that has a conservative bias. But that does
not mean that all are not invited to contribute (at least
that is the original idea from Wikipedia) but that the
editors will edit, delete, change contributions as they
see fit from their point of view.

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:30:50 -0700
  "Terry M. Gray" <> wrote:
> Iain,
> Not to put a damper on anyone's fun, but it did strike
>me as odd that you would want to hack (or whatever more
>polite word you want to use here) their system so that
>you could get your viewpoint, which is at odds with the
>purpose of the corporate project, represented.
> In a pluralistic society/world don't groups have the
>"right" to promulgate their views without critics'
>interference. It's not that critics are not allowed or
>that critics don't ever come from the inside, but it
>seems to me that there are situations where only those
> who share the cause are allowed to disseminate
>information for the cause. Such is the nature of
>voluntary associations.
> We have this situation in the ASA and on this list.
>There are those who would happily hijack our blogs, our
>discussion list, our journal, etc. for purposes contrary
>to our stated beliefs and purposes. Personally, I think
>those hijackers lack integrity. Even from within an
>organization, if someone changes their views such that
>they no longer share the corporate identity, they should
>voluntarily withdraw from the group. At least such a
>person should recognize that they have drifted to a
>different place from the group and submit their new
> viewpoint to the group. Groups with integrity will
>acknowledge that if they are to keep their identity and
>purposes intact that the member with new views is no
>longer eligible for membership. Perhaps the corporate
>identity and purpose will change in response, but, in my
>opinion, integrity demands that such changes be made
>rather than tolerating members who are opposed to the
>corporate identity and purpose.
> TG
> On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Iain Strachan wrote:
>> Much amusement and hilarity at my work was caused today
>> someone stumbled upon
>> which is a Conservative "alternative" to wikipedia,
>>peopled by
>> fundamentalists, as far as I can see.
>> The entry on "kangaroo" caused a great deal of
>> ( "designed by God for jumping" was especially
>> Does anyone know about the origin of this site? I noted
>>that there
>> wasn't any article on Theistic Evolution, but when I
>>tried to
>> create an account in order to register and write one,
>>but found
>> that new registrations have been disabled.
>> It did at least provide an opportunity to explain to a
>>colleague of
>> mine who describes himself as an atheist that there were
>>ways you
>> could be a Christian and still accept evolution, so I
>>suppose I
>> should feel grateful for the opportunity. But seriously
>>this is
>> turning Christianity into a laughing stock.
>> If anyone finds a way of getting a registered account,
>>let me know
>> and we'll have a go at doing a Theistic Evolution
>> Anything that gets hacked or distorted can be reported
>>via a blog
>> site if necessary.
>> Iain
>> --
>> -----------
>> After the game, the King and the pawn go back in the
>>same box.
>> - Italian Proverb
>> -----------
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