Re: Dialoging with others - Re: Marcus Ross Re: [asa]

From: Iain Strachan <>
Date: Thu Feb 15 2007 - 04:11:47 EST

On 2/15/07, George Murphy <> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Mahaffy" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:39 PM
> Subject: Dialoging with others - Re: Marcus Ross Re: [asa]
> Their views are at best self-contradictory and incoherent and at worst
> Manichaean. If saying that is "uncharitable" then the word "charity" has
> become meaningless.
> It is akin to the ultra-PC idea that no one's views should ever be called
> incorrect: "All have won and all shall have prizes." Yes, we can love
> those who have blatantly false notions & recognize them as fellow Christians
> but that doesn't make their ideas any truer or less likely to midlead the
> unwary.


I don't think anyone is suggesting that it's uncharitable to say their
views are wrong. But if that is done in the downright scornful way
exhibited by numerous members on the list, then it IS uncharitable.
Like sometime back when someone referred to YEC's as YEEUCKs. That's
totally unacceptable and uncharitable, and as long as people continue
to behave like that I shall protest strongly about it. If people on
the list want to let off steam by making cheap cracks like that then
the list will never be any use as a forum for dialogue with our YEC
brothers and sisters. As I've said before, I have been trying to
dialogue with a YEC friend and trying to argue that the science is all
wrong. Some of the questions he's come up with are beyond my scope of
knowledge to answer - it would be great if he could join a list such
as ASA and get courteous and gentelmany responses to show exactly why
his ideas are incorrect. But in the current form of the list and the,
yes, downright uncharitable, behaviour of certain of the members, I
would NEVER consider pointing him here. Better to point him at the
Talk Origins website, where largely the arguments are presented
objectively rather than resorting to sarcasm.

Perhaps ASA should set up a separate list "TE lounge" for TE's only
where people can slag off people who don't agree with them to their
heart's content?


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