[asa] Re: [asa] Believing Scripture but Playing by Science's Rules

From: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Mon Feb 12 2007 - 18:11:51 EST

If all were always honest we would all admit to this type of thing in
certain areas.

The important thing is to centre on the centralities of Christ

Good point

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From: "Terry M. Gray" <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] Believing Scripture but Playing by Science's Rules

> Ok, ok. I confess!
> So I too believe in and strive for a unity of knowledge. But I too, when
> it comes to human evolution, have a somewhat divided mind. I've called it
> "cognitive dissonance". I see nothing wrong with the scientific arguments
> for human evolution. I am also convinced that scripture teaches a special
> creation of Adam and Eve (perhaps not necessarily their bodies). On the
> surface (and well under the surface) those two views are at odds with
> each other. I've struggled over the years with you all and with the
> churches that I've been associated with to find a suitable solution that
> satisfies both. I've yet to hear of one (sorry to both Glenn and
> Dick--you've yet to convince me). Thus, I remain in this state of having
> a divided mind on this--I let the science speak for itself (and I fully
> believe that my science and it's methodology is rooted in a Christian
> worldview) and I let the scripture speak for itself (of course, within a
> certain theological and exegetical tradition that I also am convinced is
> sound).
> Historically, I have taken my cue from Davis Young's ideas expressed in
> Christianity and the Age of the Earth where he argues that if we can't
> even find ways to have our interpretations of scripture to agree with
> themselves, how can we expect to always be able to get our science and
> our interpretations of scripture to agree. I confess that there is a
> unity (in scripture itself and between scripture and creation) but I
> admit that I can't always solve the problems. Such problems don't lead to
> doubt and unbelief (although they do for some), but to a recognition of
> my own (our own) limited knowledge.
> So, while I don't have the issue that Ross has, because I don't believe
> that scripture teaches us about the age of the earth. I don't necessarily
> despise his epistemology here. I think he has a much more pragmatic view
> of science--these are the rules, this is the framework, this is what
> scientists believe today, so if I'm going to join in I have to buy into
> the rules, the framework, the beliefs--
> when I'm doing science.
> I'm not sure I would ever put it the way he does, because I believe that
> scientific methodology is rooted in a Christian worldview and leads us to
> some knowledge of the truth. So there is a dissonance, a recognized
> conflict, but with a belief that it is ultimately resolvable.
> TG
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