Re: [asa] Critical review of Dawkins' Book by the "Liberal Media"

From: Jim Armstrong <jarmstro@qwest.net>
Date: Wed Dec 27 2006 - 21:08:27 EST

That's not the Jewish perspective that I'm more familiar with. The
Creator does something like creating form through organizing a portion
of chaotic "something", and then assigning functionality (along with a
name). JimA

Alexanian, Moorad wrote:

>A designer need not create out of nothing. A Creator must!
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>Moorad
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>To: Alexanian, Moorad
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>Please clarify whether you think the concept of a creator is broader than
>that of a designer, and explain how an entity can be a creator without being
>a designer.
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>From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
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>To: Al Koop; asa@calvin.edu
>Subject: RE: [asa] Critical review of Dawkins' Book by the "Liberal Media"
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>>From the review:
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>"Dawkins's book begins with a description of what he calls the God
>Hypothesis. This is the idea that "the universe and everything in it" were
>designed by "a superhuman, supernatural intelligence." This intelligence
>might be personal (as in Christianity) or impersonal (as in deism). Dawkins
>is not concerned with the alleged detailed characteristics of God but with
>whether any form of the God Hypothesis is defensible. His answer is: almost
>cer-tainly not. Although his target is broad, Dawkins discusses mostly
>Christianity, partly because this faith has wrestled often with science and
>partly because it's the tradition Dawkins knows best (he was reared as an
>Anglican)."
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>I do not know if Dawkins uses the term "designer" to continue and reinforce
>his fight with ID. However, the notion of a designer is not as fundamental
>as that of a Creator. I have always said and will continue to emphasize that
>there is no way a human can do away with the notion of a Creator. Note that
>an eternal universe would not include the notion of evolution except by
>considering a cyclical universe. Otherwise, the universe must have a
>beginning and thus be created.
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>Moorad
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>From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of Al Koop
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>Subject: [asa] Critical review of Dawkins' Book by the "Liberal Media"
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>The New York Review of Books
>January 11, 2007
>http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19775?email
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>The above is the site of a long, critical review of Dawkins', The God
>Delusion, H. Allen Orr. I expect many here would agree with much of this
>review. Orr finds Dawkins sorely lacking in this book.
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