Re: [asa] RE: Public questions for Denyse O'Leary

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <>
Date: Fri Dec 22 2006 - 12:57:38 EST

I think we can take the argument further, for most of what we do is
necessarily secular. Farming, buying groceries, banking, sleeping, etc.
indefinitely, are all secular activities. Maybe we should either desist
or keep on our knees while doing them!?

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:18:12 -0800 PvM <> writes:
> What is this secular neoDarwinian paradigm? Isn't all science
> 'secular' really? And why should faith be interested in
> overthrowing
> science?
> Just because something is founded in a secular approach, does not
> mean
> that it has no place in religious faith. Many religious people have
> found it possible to reconcile their faith and this 'secular
> neoDarwinian paradigm'.
> Sure, such messages may resonate amongst some Christians who are
> (mis)led to believe that there is somehow a necessary conflict
> between
> (secular) science and Christianity but such a stance invariable
> comes
> at a cost both to science and to religion.
> I'd say that such a stance has already done significant damage to
> religious faith and is fueling much of the recent atheist
> 'revivals.
> On 12/21/06, James Mahaffy <> wrote:
> >While I think ID would like to overthrow the secular neoDarwinain
> paradigm, I sadly suspect they >will be more effective among the
> Christian layity than the scientists. I am not sure either that
> >will or can be a united voice there, but it certainly provides
> fellowship and support for evangelical >scientists and that is
> important.
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