Re: [asa] UN Downgrades Man's Impact On The Climate

From: Don Winterstein <>
Date: Mon Dec 11 2006 - 09:03:17 EST

 Don't forget too, that there are other looming issues such as energy.

The current issue of Business Week (Dec. 18) states in an article entitled Put a Termite In Your Tank, "If efforts [involving 'bio breakthroughs' for digesting cellulose] can be scaled up efficiently, America's forests, agricultural waste, and 40 to 60 million acres of prairie grass could supply 100 billion gallons or more of fuel per year--while slashing greenhouse gas emissions. That would replace more than half the 150 billion gallons of gasoline now used [by the US] annually...."

Lots of "ifs" there, but still a rather remarkable statement. Pilot facilities are already being built.


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  Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] UN Downgrades Man's Impact On The Climate

  It is troubling when Christians always seem to get themselves
  mired deeply on the opposing side of a scientific consensus,
  and their shouts about "lies" and "conspiracy" amount to little
  more than an incremental correction. Indeed, those very
  incremental corrections required investment in the science to
  discover. It also seems strange that the only alternative
  suggested is no investment, and no precautionary measures of
  any kind.

  For example, SETI. Why stop it? If you are so confident they'll
  never find anything, let them look. Let them come to a conclusion
  based on the evidence. As an aside, this is probably an area where
  serious ID research could even offer a valuable contribution:
  identifying signals generated from an extraterrestrial
  intelligent agent.

  What about evolution? The notion is always, "stamp it out!". Why?
  Are we afraid of something? I understand that worshiping the
  creation instead of the creator is an issue. However, if
  Augustine were not to have passed through Manichaeism and
  Platonism he would have hardly become the effective Christian
  father he became. It was by God's Grace that he because
  a Christian, and it was through the work of God's leading that
  passed him through these periods. We must live in this world,
  therefore we most also engage it. Should anyone really find rest
  in the temple of extremist scientism?

  Christians seem willing to invest their on ID with
  the hope that it will have some payoff. Christians seem willing
  to invest their money on creation research in the hope of some
  payoff. Yet somehow, when it comes to environment and evolution,
  they shout "lies!" and "conspiracy!". If they are soooooo cock sure
  that it will all take care of itself with noooooo problem, why not
  let a little public investment find that out? What are they afraid of?

  If you want to invest your money in a company, you find
  out all you can before you start with as little cost to yourself
  as possible. Studies are less costly and threatening than policy,
  and it is important to do sufficient study so that the wisest policy
  is applied.

  I appreciate that Pim is taking so much time out to investigate
  these humdrum harangues from Janice. Nevertheless, what may
  be of value to discuss here is what role we should play as
  scientist and people of faith in embracing this growing issue. Don't
  forget too, that there are other looming issues such as energy. How
  do we assess the priority from the standpoint of policy. Typically,
  scientists see their particular domain at a much higher priority than
  an economist might. How do we show a commitment to good

  by Grace we proceed,

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