Re: [asa] Empiricism, Faith and Science

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Date: Wed Sep 20 2006 - 07:41:20 EDT

In a message dated 9/20/2006 2:36:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
As Don said,
I realize it's foolish to step in, but let me repeat anyway what I
said three
years ago or so on this, and see if it makes a difference this time:

I also said some years ago that the aleph tau (the 4th word) just
before "the
heavens and the earth" is a late addition to the text, and not a
word as
such but only a marker of the accusative. It is not part of the
original. Even if
you regard the later additions to the text as inspired, it is more
like a
colon, a mark of punctuation, than a regular word. If you had not
built upon it,
your numerology would at least have a solid basis for coming from the
original, but including it as you do tells me that your numerology is

Sorry but this is not an impressive argument at all. It seems that
you are
placing a requirement on God to only insert a pattern in the original
This reminds me of Richard Dawkins's equally weak argument "If I were
God, I
wouldn't have done it by evolution", ie placing a requirement on God
to create a
world different from the one we observe because in his view there is
too much
misery in the world for a benevolent creator. I take it you agree
that this
is a feeble argument, but I think your argument here is no better.
And that is the divide, isn't it? - between people who see the
natural law
and human hands in the bible and people who see miracles everywhere,
even in the
placing of an "aleph tau."

Here is the pattern I see. I see it in Genesis and I see it in the
of today's Jewish orthodox groups who have the law "written on their
and in the behavior of secular Jews; today's "Josephs in Egypt."

Biblical scholars will eventually conclude that Genesis is a summary
of the
entire evolutionary strategy of Judaism and was tacked on to the
front of the

The allegorical progression in Genesis:

The allegory of Adam and Eve teaches the true nature of the human
that you have to learn as much as you can for as long as you live
because as
man moved from instinctive to learned behavior, the law was no longer
on his heart." (See my paper True Religion)

The allegory of Cain and Abel teaches that you must never be a farmer
farmers always lose everything. You must be a shepherd to escape the
centralization of agriculture that always impoverishes the free
farmer class in
agricultural states.

The allegory of Abraham teaches high quantity birthing. (See TR)

The allegory of Jacob and Esau teaches high quality birthing. (see TR)

The Tower of Babel is the allegory for niche seizure and population
and the dropping of a nation's borders first visited upon the
Israelites by
the Assyrians in 720 B.C. (See Liverani and Finkelstein)

Sodom and Gomorrah is the allegory for the liberalism being jammed
down our
throats - our "altars" are being destroyed.

The story of Joseph in Egypt teaches secular/apostate Jews who live
among the
gentiles of a host nation to centralize its agriculture and
dispossess the
host's free farmers. That is what Stalin did to the Ukraine, only
they called
it "collectivization."
That is why when Edward Longshanks told England's Jews to become
farmers or
leave England, they left England.

Genesis is a summary of the entire evolutionary strategy of Judaism. It
contains the basic framework for the religious rules for reproductive
and political
success, rules based on social science that are detailed later in the
rest of
the Torah. These laws are responsible for maintaining the Jewish
people for
over 2,000 years.

I really hope you all get a copy of Race and the American Prospect
and read
my essay on these matters. Vernon's numerology is considered because the
Hebrews did indeed have an affinity for numbers games in their texts.
At least
consider my reading. There's nothing interpretive or esoteric about
it. I simply
take the text at face value and name the social processes described
in the text.

And I provide the scientific justification for Christian morals Ken
Ham is
looking for.

rich faussette

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