Re: [asa] What causes students to move from faith?

From: Rich Blinne <>
Date: Thu Sep 07 2006 - 15:08:47 EDT

On 9/7/06, Janice Matchett <> wrote:
> At 01:09 PM 9/7/2006, Roger Olson wrote:
> The point is if they were fed a pack of lies (whether or not pastor
> realizes this!). The putative conversion was based on false pretences. Of
> course the Father and Holy Spirit can do as they please, but this
> YEC-for-evangelizing is scary ground. *Lieing for Jesus is not acceptable
> behavior. Of course YEC is not the only way this is done. *
> @ Agreed. It's not acceptable behavior to *deliberately *"lie for
> Jesus", and of course, the YEC argument isn't the "only" way it's done.

Which is why I avoid using the word lying which implies deliberate
deception. When I was in YEC circles I got no impression that there was any
deliberate deception. Returning to my hobby horse on imputing motives as
violating the Ninth Commandment, it should be noted that we do not "lie for
Jesus" by imputing non-existent motives. Just because this appears to be
common in YEC rhetoric does not give us license to return in kind.

As noted by the Scriptures that Janice quoted the standard for teachers is
not merely being without guile. What marks YEC is a lack of care in avoiding
error. Again, as Janice rightly noted YEC does not have a corner on that

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