Re: Post-Darwinist: Pope uses term "intelligent design" in a favourable context

From: George Murphy <>
Date: Fri Nov 11 2005 - 16:41:03 EST

----- Original Message -----
From: "Denyse O'Leary" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: Post-Darwinist: Pope uses term "intelligent design" in a favourable

> Post-Darwinist: The Pope was mistranslated. It appears that he did say
> "intelligent design" in a favourable context
> It appears, from a reliable source, that when the Pope used the words
> "intelligent plan" he meant "intelligent design". He was using the German
> word "Plan", which, according to Cassells German Dictionary, can mean
> "design". In that case, the Pope was signalling clearly that intelligent
> design of the universe and life is indeed the correct Catholic view.
> [Cardinal Schonborn has the story at his Web site, where he translates
> "intelligenten Plan" ans "intelligent design".]
>

Sorry Denyse, this won't work. "Intelligent Design" in English is now a
technical term & you always need to be careful with those in any language.
The fact that a German word _can_ mean "design" doesn't prove that it's
being used in the same technical sense that Dembski, z.B., means when he
says "design." Cassells lists 16 English meanings for /der Plan/, of which
the 11th is "design." The 10th is "plan." If the Pope wants to make an
explicit endorsement of ID he should do it in English because that's the
language in which it has become a technical term.

Besides, there is still the ambiguity between "intelligent design" as a
religious belief & as a putative scientific theory. Of course the former is
the correct view not only of RCs but of all Christians. The latter is a
different matter. (Do you know the difference Denyse? Some things you
write make me wonder.)

Received on Fri Nov 11 16:43:09 2005

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Fri Nov 11 2005 - 16:43:09 EST