Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Vatican

From: Robert Schneider <rjschn39@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed Nov 09 2005 - 22:22:19 EST

So God is masculine?
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  Christ referred to God as Father. The Son ought to know!

  Moorad

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  In a message dated 11/9/2005 10:52:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, rjschn39@bellsouth.net writes:

    On God's "gender": there are feminine images of God in the OT, as biblical scholars have pointed out. And from early times, Christian theology has insisted that God is beyond gender. When my (usually male) students insist that God is masculine, I tell them that they are making God in their own image.

    However, as I pointed out to my students in my NT Lit. classes yesterday, the correct translation for Gal. 3:28 is "...not 'male and female'." As N. T. Wright and others point out, Paul is clearly referencing Gen. 1:27. They interpret Paul to mean that in Christ gender distinctions no longer obtain, because believers are "one" in a "new creation." The shift also contains an implicit rejection of all patriarchial systems of gender discrimination. Ephesians carries this forward in 5:21ff with "Be mutually submissive to one another out of reverence for Christ," and includes husbands and wives under that rubric.

    Bob

  Jewish theology posits the messiah to be male and female. The reasoning goes this way: Before Eve was created from Adam's rib, Adam contained both male and female principles and therefore had NO DESIRE. Once Adam and Eve were separated, each lacked something the other had and desire was born. It was desire that caused the eating of the apple.

  Jesus is portrayed as celibate, like the pre-fall Adam the messiah has no desire. He is complete in himself.

  I do not see Christian theology departing from this schema. Also, the nag hammadi texts make much mention of male becoming female and female becoming male to enter the kingdom.

  For background see Gershom Scholem's the messianic idea in Judaism

  rich faussette
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