Re: Jesus was a spirit

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Date: Thu Oct 20 2005 - 01:21:58 EDT wrote:
> Jesus is fully God and fully man - he is the God-man. He has a glorified
> "spirital body" - he is not "a spirit".
> ~ Janice

Of course! That is indeed what Paul is supposed to have believed.

But , in that sense, Jesus had a spiritual body *before* the resurrection. He was God Incarnate after all.

Wright tries to empty Paul's liking of a spiritual body to the heavenly bodies we see in the sky - not then believed to be made of earthly substances.

Wright trie to turn spiritual body into little more than the flesh and blood body of a very spiritual person.

By 'spiritual body', Paul meant a body made from heavenly substance. He says so :- The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.

We will be changed. , and change what we wear, just as we change money.

Paul uses the word 'allaso', the same word as he uses in Romans 1:23 'And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.'

Paul does not mean that the corruptible man was simply the old God , made of the same substance, but transformed. He means one thing was swapped for another thing.

And just as Hebrews 1:12 uses the same word, in the same analogy Paul uses about wearing things 'And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.'

The heavens and earth will be changed like garments are changed - rolled up and discarded and replaced, not transformed. After all, a new creation is new, and not a warmed-up old creation.

Wright's book has been praised a lot by Christians on sceptical discussion sites, but very few arguments from the book have been put forward. I guess the book is for praising not quoting.

Sceptica attitude to the Bible is quite different. It is for quoting, not praising. When people say that Wright says Paul teaches something, we just quote what Paul says....
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