Re: Comments on Snoke's approach

From: Cornelius Hunter <>
Date: Sat Sep 24 2005 - 15:08:00 EDT


It is not surprising that evolution, a theory not well grounded in science,
continues to propagate credulous speculation. The inevitable response to
questions of complexity and astronomical design spaces, is that evolution
isn't random after all. It is really a guided search process, homing in on
those functional designs. Furthermore, the evolutionary process itself
evolves, fixing itself so that it works right.

The reason usually given for evolution being non random is natural
selection. Natural selection guides the search process, right? Well
actually, no it doesn't. All natural selection does is kill off the non
competitive designs. That unguided biological variation still must luckily
hit upon the right designs for natural selection to preserve (because it
works better than the less competitive designs). So we're back to the
problem of needing astronomically large populations, bigger than the all the
electrons that could pack into the universe, by many orders of magnitude.

Think of it this way. Every biological design, and every species on this
planet would have had to have been created by nothing more than random
biological variation. All natural selection does is kill off the chaff in
the process. In fact, this is not all. Every one of those designs and
species has to have a functional pathway leading to it. That is, from that
first warm little puddle, not only must unguided random variation create
everything from the DNA code to the human brain, but it must do so in small
steps such that the intermediate is functional.

Nonetheless evolutionists speak of "selection pressure" as though natural
selection was indeed influencing the biological variation. At the risk of
sounding teleological, such language gets the complexity monkey off their
back. Of course, the idea of evolution evolving itself is equally
teleological and credulous. But this is in fact what evolutionists must
conclude given what we now understand about adaptation.

This is what happens when religion dabbles in science.


From: "Pim van Meurs" <>
> Or that the argument is wrong? In this case you are presuming that full
> DNA space needs to be searched. Secondly, Darwinian theory is not based on
> an unguided search process (random search) but rather a guided search.
> Once one realizes that the relevance of the concept of evolvability and
> how evolution itself can evolve one comes to realize why evolution has
> been so succesful.
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