Re: On the science of everything

From: George Murphy <>
Date: Fri Sep 23 2005 - 16:30:22 EDT

Goedel's theorem raises very serious doubts that a genuine TOE is possible -
a point that Hawking has recently admitted. That doesn't necessarily mean
that the related "undecidable propositions" have to do with the existence of
life & consciousness.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <>
To: "AmericanScientificAffiliation" <>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:08 PM
Subject: On the science of everything

> Theories in physics are expressed in mathematical language and the
> predications derived from them are very much like the axioms and
> theorems derived in Euclidean geometry. The theories exist independent
> of the creator of the theory. Of course, the nature of that existence is
> itself puzzling, viz., does it exist in conscious minds only or
> somewhere else. In any case, the creator of the theory can extricate
> himself/herself from the content of the theory.
> The fundamental question is if life and consciousness can be made part
> of a theory in the same sense as the objects studied in physics. Is such
> a successful theory necessarily materialistic, i.e., purely physical. It
> seems rather difficult to conceive of a theory that explains the very
> conscious and rational entity that is doing the theorizing. Is the need
> for a Creator, or ID, a necessary logical component of such a successful
> description of the whole of reality?
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