Re: Teaching Evolution - Childs Perspective

From: janice matchett <janmatch@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri Sep 16 2005 - 11:23:55 EDT

What is it that's REEEEEALLY bothering you? :) ~ Janice

At 09:44 AM 9/16/2005, Iain Strachan wrote:
>Janice,
>
>Just wondering if you'd gain more respect for your ideas if you
>refrained from using bold type face and large fonts quite so often?
>It reminds me of the of the vicar whose sermon notes had the marginal
>comment AWSL. On being asked what this meant he said "Argument Weak,
>Shout Louder". If your arguments are good, then you should not have
>to resort to hectoring bold large fonts to reinforce them - the power
>should be behind the quality of argument, not the presentation.
>
>Iain.
>
>On 9/16/05, janice matchett <janmatch@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > "I always found Gould a very entertaining writer. He certainly held
> > strongly that science and religion occupied exclusive arenas ... " ~ Al
> > McCarrick
> >
> > The poor soul may have been "a victim" of the mental confusion that
> results
> > from holding polar opposite ideas, attitudes and beliefs simultaneously
> > (cognitive dissonance). To wit:
> >
> > 1992: "To say it for all my colleagues and for the umpteenth million time
> > (from college bull sessions to learned treatises): science simply
> cannot (by
> > its legitimate methods) adjudicate the issue of God's possible
> > superintendence of nature. We neither affirm nor deny it; we simply can't
> > comment on it as scientists. If some of our crowd have made untoward
> > statements claiming that Darwinism disproves God, then I will find Mrs.
> > McInerney and have their knuckles rapped for it (as long as she can equally
> > treat those members of our crowd who have argued that Darwinism must be
> > God's method of action). Science can work only with naturalistic
> > explanations; it can neither affirm nor deny other types of actors (like
> > God) in other spheres (the moral realm, for example)." Stephen Jay Gould,
> > "Impeaching a Self-Appointed Judge," Scientific American, 267(1), July
> 1992;
> > from Liz R. Hughes, ed., Reviews of Creationist Books, Berkely, CA: The
> > National Center for Science Education, Inc., 1992, pp. 79-84. Freethought
> > Zone
> >
> > 1991: "Before Darwin, we thought that a benevolent God had created us."
> > Gould, Stephen Jay in "Ever Since Darwin: Reflections in Natural History,"
> > Penguin: London UK, 1991, p.267.
> >
> > 1988: "We are here because one odd group of fishes had a peculiar fin
> > anatomy that could transform into legs for terrestrial creatures; because
> > the earth never froze entirely during an ice age; because a small and
> > tenuous species, arising in Africa a quarter of a million years ago, has
> > managed, so far, to survive by hook and by crook. We may yearn for a higher
> > answer -- but none exists." Stephen Jay Gould, Life magazine, December
> 1988,
> > from James A. Haught, ed., 2000 Years of Disbelief
> >
> > ~ Janice
> >
> >
> > At 07:49 AM 9/16/2005, Mccarrick, Alan D CIV NSWCCD Philadelphia, 9212
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Terry,
> > I always found Gould a very entertaining writer. He certainly held
> > strongly that science and religion occupied exclusive arenas (NOMA - Non
> > Overlapping Magestera - my Latin spelling is suspect - did Gould invert
> this
> > term?). Science occupies the "real" world of facts, and religion... well..
> > uh... um... makes us feel better... says things about morals (which science
> > should better inform us)... comforts us in sickness and death. I sensed
> > that he relegated religion to a purely subjective world. Polkinghorn
> > describes this view of religion as "whistling in the dark" and "loving
> lies"
> > told to comfort children. I think that describes Gould's religion.
> >
> > Yes, Gould sees a role for religion - a small silly role indeed.
> > I wish I new more about Gould's last days, whether he wrote or talked much
> > about spiritual things.
> >
> > Al McCarrick
> >
> > Terry wrote:
> > I'm quite surprised that you lump Gould and Dawkins together. I never
> > counted Gould as a believer, but I never counted him in any way as an
> > advocate of scientism.
> >
>
>
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