Re: Public perceptions of science: was Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

From: Michael Roberts <>
Date: Sat Sep 10 2005 - 16:54:20 EDT

Thanks for this useful comment. Geologists are not only careful but they are
very contentious with each other and so have to be careful as they know at
least one geologist will behave like a non-scavenging T Rex.

When geologists actually agree with each other there is very high certainty
to what they say!

I am sure that this could be said about most scientists!

You touch on another problem of YECs criticising sciences they have no skill

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From: "Bill Hamilton" <>
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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Public perceptions of science: was Why Most Published Research
Findings Are False

>I remember when, pretty much fresh from my YEC days, I went to a seminar at
> Calvin College to hear John Horner speak about digging dinosaurs. He had
> developed a theory that T. Rex was a scavenger, not a predator, and he
> proceeded to explain in considerable detail how he arrived at his
> conclusion:
> The upper and lower leg bones were the same length -- not conducive to
> running
> fast; a CAT scan of the skull revealed the olfactory lobe was much bigger
> than
> the visual -- characteristic of scavengers; by measuring the length
> between
> where the muscles are attached and the joints, he could estimate the
> strength
> of the muscles, and concluded that the T Rex could only lift about 300
> lbs. To
> the YEC who says, "How much could we learn about what happened when no one
> was
> there to observe", the answer was "quite a bit, by careful study." Davis
> Young's book "Christianity and the age of the earth" convinced me that
> geologists are a very careful lot. Again I learned that quite a bit of
> useful
> knowledge can be gained by careful study. As an engineer, I will always be
> more
> comfortable with the so-called "hard" sciences, but I have great respect
> for
> geologists and biologists. But I get frustrated that my creationist
> friends
> won't do the small amount of investigation I have done.
> Bill Hamilton
> William E. Hamilton, Jr., Ph.D.
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