Re: God as tinkerer

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <>
Date: Thu Aug 25 2005 - 14:45:05 EDT

Just how could you have an experience outside of time? Seems to me you're
making your experience the measure of God's existence. This makes God
react, with the implication that he has to wait for knowledge. How does
this match up with Romans 8:29 et sq.?

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:00:26 -0700 "Don Winterstein"
<> writes:
I'm not sure our logical underpinnings correctly take into account how
God might (or might not) be constrained by his being outside time. As
I've stated here before, I'm convinced that I've had extended personal
interactions with God as Spirit. These could not have happened unless
God entered my space. I conclude there's something wrong with the logic.
 Actually, both QM and Relativity tell us clearly that human logic is
inadequate for comprehending the world. Who would be surprised if it's
inadequate for comprehending God?

As a scientist I was an experimentalist; as a man of God, likewise.
Experience is by far the most concrete thing; our logic must be forced to
conform or be set aside if it can't.

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