Re: Bush and creationism

From: Peter Cook <>
Date: Sat Aug 20 2005 - 21:05:12 EDT

If ID is taught as science, this might not be such a bad thing, as
everything I have seen suggests that it is not so much science as a
metaphysical viewpoint, and if it is revealed as such, maybe some of the
noise will die down.

It would be even better if we had some courses that taught not just the
current body of scientific understanding (although in most public schools,
"current" is not quite the right word) but something more of what science
overall is, how it works, etc., and what its strengths and weaknesses are.
While my own children are past the public school age (the youngest is now
finishing up college), I would rather they were taught this, than taught
that this or that "scientific" view proves or disproves any particular
theological or metaphysical position.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol or John Burgeson" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: Bush and creationism

> A sharp debate between scientists and religious conservatives escalated
> Tuesday over comments by President Bush that the theory of intelligent
> design should be taught with evolution in the nation's public schools.
> New York Times
> Part of the article:
> ... Mr. Bush's conservative supporters said the president had indicated
> exactly that in his remarks.
> "It's what I've been pushing, it's what a lot of us have been pushing,"
> said Richard Land, the president of the ethics and religious liberties
> commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. Dr. Land, who has close
> ties to the White House, said that evolution "is too often taught as
> fact," and that "if you're going to teach the Darwinian theory as
> evolution, teach it as theory. And then teach another theory that has the
> most support among scientists."
> But critics saw Mr. Bush's comment that "both sides" should be taught as
> the most troubling aspect of his remarks.
> "It sounds like you're being fair, but creationism is a sectarian
> religious viewpoint, and intelligent design is a sectarian religious
> viewpoint," said Susan Spath, a spokeswoman for the National Center for
> Science Education, a group that defends the teaching of evolution in
> public schools. "It's not fair to privilege one religious viewpoint by
> calling it the other side of evolution."
> ...
> The Discovery Institute in Seattle, a leader in developing intelligent
> design, applauded the president's words on Tuesday as a defense of
> scientists who have been ostracized for advancing the theory.
> "We interpret this as the president using his bully pulpit to support
> freedom of inquiry and free speech about the issue of biological
> origins," said Stephen Meyer, the director of the institute's Center for
> Science and Culture. "It's extremely timely and welcome because so many
> scientists are experiencing recriminations for breaking with Darwinist
> orthodoxy."
> At the White House, intelligent design was the subject of a weekly Bible
> study class several years ago when Charles W. Colson, the founder and
> chairman of Prison Fellowship Ministries, spoke to the group. Mr. Colson
> has also written a book, "The Good Life," in which a chapter on
> intelligent design features Michael Gerson, an evangelical Christian who
> is an assistant to the president for policy and strategic planning.
> Burgy
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