Re: Who's opinion should be considered:

From: Michael Roberts <>
Date: Mon Aug 15 2005 - 12:59:22 EDT

Until recently most Oxbridge dons in the arts were not doctorates. One of my
chemistry lecturers was simply M.A., F.R.S. as was Larry Wager a full
professor, who failed to finish his Ph D

Surely we are dying by degrees and those who have to have two Ph Ds when one
will do exemplify this.

Also I have recently read an M.A. an M.Th and a Ph.D theses from three
different UK universities and thus I am proud not to have a research degree.
One prof told me that if a student did the work he has to pass.


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Murphy" <>
To: "Jack Haas" <>; "Glenn Morton"
<>; "ASA list" <>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Who's opinion should be considered:

> There was a man who taught at Harvard (whose name I forget) who was
> considered one of the world's greatest experts on Shakespeare but who had
> only an A.B. degree. When asked why he hadn't gotten a doctorate he
> replied, "Who would examine me?"
> Shalom
> George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Haas" <>
> To: "Glenn Morton" <>; "ASA list" <>
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Who's opinion should be considered:
>> Then there is the late Peter Jennings who did not finish his sophomore
>> year in high school.
>> I found the British more tolerant of amateurs in History of Science than
>> their US counterparts.
>> Jack Haas
>> Glenn Morton wrote:
>>> To George and Michael,
>>> When I did my year sentence in philosophy grad school, the biggest
>>> lesson I came away with was the utter necessity of crucial experiments.
>>> Philosopher after philosopher would set up his internally
>>> self-consistent system of thought, each of which was totally
>>> inconsistent with the other guy. No one could tell which, if any, of the
>>> systems of thought was correct. I became rather frustrated because I
>>> began to realize that truth was really not to be found in philosophy.
>>> In many ways, theology has the same problem--the lack of a means to
>>> determine which view is correct. That being said, I absolutely would
>>> agree with George that if one is to do serious theology, one absolutely
>>> must read the ancient theologians and the modern and they must then know
>>> the issues. Like most areas one deals with in life, the majority of
>>> people are utterly ignorant of theology (that would include me as well).
>>> A friend, who I have known for 25 years, who is also a former YEC who
>>> struggled with the geologic data, had an appropo saying about the
>>> geological ignorance of our fellow YECs in those days. He said, "Not
>>> only can most people not argue the issues, most people don't even know
>>> what the issues are!"
>>> glenn
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