Re: Washington Post makes agenda for science crystal clear

From: Pim van Meurs <>
Date: Fri Jun 03 2005 - 13:06:16 EDT

Huh? What the WaPo has done is make the agenda for ID crystal clear.
That Denyse calls science the church of Carl Sagan or Dawkins shows her
further confusion, so typical among ID proponents. Since this confusion
about methodological and philosophical naturalism runs deep through the
ID movement and may even be essential for the Wedge, such confusion can
be corrected with some simple research.

Denyse's 'fumble in the endzone' has not only caused the DI the
co-sponsorship for their movie but also the SI has come forward and
stated that the movie is not compatible with the goals of the SI.
Furthermore, the story has been picked up by 'legacy' media as Denyse
calls them who are showing how the movie is a logical extension of the

Well done.

Denyse O'Leary wrote:

>Huh? Has Christmas come early? This Washington Post editorial is a gift to
>me because it illustrates precisely what I am trying to say about the way
>that science has become the Church of Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins. The
>editorialist notes,
>"While "The Privileged Planet" is an extremely sophisticated religious film,
>it is a religious film nevertheless. It uses scientific information -- the
>apparently "perfect" position of Earth in its orbit and in its galaxy, the
>uniqueness of its atmosphere -- to answer, affirmatively, the philosophical
>question of whether life on Earth was part of a grand design, and not just
>the result of chance and chemistry. Neither God nor evolution is mentioned.
>Nevertheless, the film is consistent with the Discovery Institute's general
>aim, which is to drive a wedge into the scientific consensus about the
>origins of life and the universe and to give a patina of scientific
>credibility to the idea of an intelligent creator."
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