Re: Non-truths that do not transform

From: Michael Roberts <>
Date: Wed Apr 27 2005 - 02:57:11 EDT

If God created the universe with the appearance of great age then god is a deceiver and a liar , so if that is what happened at creation then we truly do worship the devil.
The mind boggles how people can still come out with such risible nonsense. It gives atheists a field day

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  From: Jim Armstrong
  Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:31 AM
  Subject: Re: Non-truths that do not transform

  Add to that the determination of the center of the Milky Way galaxy at 20,000 light years via proper motion measurement of the dist clouds and water molecules near the black hole center. Also, the measurement of nearby galaxy NGC 4258 which involves the large radio telescope arrays and Kepler's 3rd Law of orbital motion - Rogier Windhorst says that to deny this 23.5 million light year distance is essentially to invalidate Kepler's Third Law which can be derived from Newton's Law of Gravitation to which we entrust every launched satellite and space probe. Also, winding back the Hubble expansion in simple form gives 15 billion years. The relativistic time dilation observed with distant supernovae says they are a very long way away and traveling as a fraction of light speed that is no longer ignorable - validating the expansion model (and the time of expansion). And then there's that pesky Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation measurement that gave us the 13.70.2 billion year age, measuring universe conditions that never were according to Vern's model. That's a lot of fuss and bother for appearances sake.

  Why bother? We only find these things by curiosity and ration. He could have made all this happen in such a way that the results were not amenable to reason. Why then would he put those artifacts there for us to discover and be misled if they were wrong? That would indeed be duplicitous.
  As sovereign, I guess that would be OK, but not kind from our perspective. And just how would that help or encourage us in our quest for a living faith in this Creator? JimA
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