Re: conscious existence after death?

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Date: Tue Apr 19 2005 - 15:09:13 EDT

That is possible.

But doesnt the traditional view of an intermediate state
imply that this state is one in which those that are
waiting for the resurrection are conscious? As Kevin
Corcoran (see the shameless plug above) uses to illustrate
this how can you have "Communion of the Saints", without
those that are dead but not yet resurrected, being

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:05:01 -0400
  Jan de Koning <> wrote:
>Though I do not want to spend much "time" on it, I do
>want to remind you that I said as well , that I said that
>"time" was a creation of the Lord as well. That means
>when we see it as a fourth dimension, the word "until"
>has a completely different meaning than we would attach
>to it. It is a completely different way of living,
>thinking than we have now. I think of how Moses and
>Elijah visited our Lord, and how our Lord could visit the
>disciples (after His resurrection) in a locked room.
> That would indicate to me that there is a fourth
>dimension, unknown to us now, which (could) make the
>"moment" of our death the moment of our resurrection.
>Now i really mean it, I stop on this subject now, and
>later in the year ask me again.
>Jan de Koning
>At 12:40 PM 4/19/2005, wrote:
>>Jan did not want to continue a discussion on this topic,
>>so I thought I would post it seperately. I want to know
>>if any of you have an opinion, and evidence to support
>>your view of the following question(s).
>>After death, do our souls/person/mind whatever you want
>>to call it, cease to exist until the general
>>resurrection? Or is there an intermediate state of
>>conscious existence until the resurrection? And if there
>>is an intermediate state, is this corporeal or only
>>I am still working through the monism/dualism question.
>>And scientifically it seems to me the best evidence is
>>leading me towards monism. But the Bible, from the best I
>>can tell, seems to say that there is an intermediate
>>conscious state, followed by a general resurrection into
>>a "spiritual" body. This would disagree with Jan's idea
>>that there is no "time" in hades/sheol because the souls
>>there are conscious.
>>But I am looking for different perspectives on this.
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