RE: The Curse - Upon All Creation or Just Mankind?

From: Mike Tharp <>
Date: Sat Sep 18 2004 - 17:31:38 EDT

I understand what your point about "very good" being subjective. Yes, I do
agree with you that, from my perspective, the post fall creation is very
good. However, I still am not convinced that death occurred before the fall.

As for the Romans passage, I'll look into the preterists' interpretation as
I am not familiar with that.


-----Original Message-----
From: jack syme []
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 4:09 PM
To: Mike Tharp; 'AmericanScientificAffiliation'
Subject: Re: The Curse - Upon All Creation or Just Mankind?

 "But if there was
disease and bloodshed prior to the Fall, I don't see how God could call that
"very good". Then again, if there was death and suffering before the fall
and God called it "very good", who am I to argue with him?"

This measurement of "very good" is as subjective a measurement as I can
think of. I look at the universe and the creation, and it seems to me to be
"very good" now, after the fall. Other than mankinds cruelty to other men,
what about the post fall creation do you think is not very good?

Similarly the passage in Romans about the creation groaning? I dont have
the time or resources to go over that now, but preterists interpret
creation, in that passage, as old testament saints. They were waiting for
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