Fw: Seely's Views 2

From: Innovatia <dennis@innovatia.com>
Date: Mon Sep 13 2004 - 22:57:46 EDT

From: Don Winterstein
To: Jim Armstrong

JA: Unless I am mistaken, the eastern branch of Christianity feels that the western branch has created "a form of idolatry" (heresy) by deciding to worship one begotten of God rather than God Himself who preexisted the begotten one. Many/most western Christians take exception to that, but would we say the eastern branch is practicing idolatry because their understanding of God and man's history with Him differs in this way?

DW: The eastern branch accepts the Nicene creed, which states that Christ is fully God. So they would not criticize the west for worshiping Christ. Their big bone of contention with the west was that the west modified the Nicene creed to include the phrase I've set off with brackets (above), the infamous "filioque clause." The easterners thought filioque was such an egregious error that it became a major factor in bringing about the permanent split between the two bodies in 1054.

Just a comment in passing - the "eastern church" you refer to is the eastern splinter off the Church of Rome - the Constantinian church. Besides these was the Church of the East, or Syrian church, which did not recognize the authority of the Pope (Imperial Christianity), whether Western or Eastern branch, and eclipsed both in size and importance. Many other church traditions historically trace back to apostolic origins independent of the Constantinian church. These include the Vaudois, Waldenses, Albigenses, Celtic church, Italic church, and the many churches scattered across central Asia, from Antioch to China, who rejected the authority of the imperial church - western or eastern branch.

Following George Murphy's comment about Nestorians in the eastern Roman church, the Church of the East was not, for the most part, Nestorian either, as some church histories suggest, though they rejected the more extreme speculations in later councils of the Imperial Church, as church historian Benjamin G. Wilkinson describes in his book, on-line at:
http://www.sundaylaw.net/books/other/wilkerson/tttoc.htm

Dennis Feucht
Received on Tue Sep 14 11:25:39 2004

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