RE: Peeved at the pump

From: Glenn Morton <>
Date: Sat May 15 2004 - 20:45:24 EDT

No Michael, I don't see it as exaggeration. It was definitely my
impression. Aberdeen was one of the richest places in Scotland and every
winter I saw lots of people walking to Altens to go to work where I did,
regardless of the weather. Lots of people in the building I worked in
lived close to work and thus walked. Lots didn't drive. One might say
it was the green thing to do, but not during a blizzard. I saw one
young lady almost blown down a hill one winter. The alternative, the bus
system might take an hour to get 10 miles from Peterculter to Altens.
Everything I described, I saw. I viewed this as cruel to the poor. My
friends in Aberdeen saw the lack of a national health care system in the
US as cruel to our poor. Different strokes for different folks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Roberts []
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:07 PM
> To: Glenn Morton; 'Howard J. Van Till';; 'Al Koop'
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: Peeved at the pump
> > Sorry to have slipped into such vitriolic sarcasm. I do get rather
> > tired of 'solutions' which don't solve a thing and I still contend,
> > Howard, that the poor can't afford 75 dollars to fill up a gas tank
> > once a week and at the same time afford a 12,000 GBP car,
> especially
> > when in Britain the government taxes both items to the hilt.
> Come on Glenn, this is sheer exaggeration! I think I have
> lived in Britain longer than you have so I can say that you
> are not accurate. Who do you mean by the poor? Here there is
> a high level or car ownership and where I used to live in N
> Wales hardly a rich area and in inner city Liverpool before
> that, most had cars. Granted they were not 12,000 cars (that
> would buy you a one year old Ford Contour/Mondeo and a
> continental holiday for a couple) Yes the poor have older
> cars - 8-12 years old but even some ASA members don't have
> new ones!! We have two cars a 96 Mondeo (106K on the clock)
> and a midget 2001 Peugeot, which are fine for us and we might
> get 5000 if we traded them in. For $75 we would get a good
> 500 miles of motoring in, which is a lot over here, even
> living in the country. Alos dont forget that in towns many
> use public transport to get to work.
> The thing I find hard is a gas guzzler getting some 10 mpg or
> even a moderate 4X4 getting 20. Also think of the fuel wasted
> by automatics.
> We have just done a round trip of 450 miles which used less
> than 45 gas and most of that was cruising at 80 mph. Now if
> we had a large US car it would have cost us 90 or even a
> Range Rover, which is a ridiculous vehicle
> Michael
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